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Airport Security Is Killing Us

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A quibble, because this whole fucking disgusting thing fills me with limitless rage: TSA agents do not perform 'pat-downs'. Pat-downs are very quick checks to see if any obvious weapons are being concealed on someone's body. Police will do these before putting a suspect into a police vehicle, for instance. TSA employees do what are called 'custody searches', designed to find contraband material on detainees. These ar…

No they're not. The Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld an exemption for searches in the context of airport security under the doctrine of administrative searches, where the state's legitimate interest overrides the cost (to individuals) of the search, and where no one person is singled out by the searches. Your argument doesn't even follow logically, as all the 4th Amendment requires is that searches be "reasonable"…

What is the argument for searches when you decide to leave after entering the pat down area? It doesn't seem to be an administrative search if you decide to leave after entering the security area, because you are no longer going to board an aircraft.

Re: Airport Security Is Killing Us

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they're not. The Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld an exemption for searches in the context of airport security under the doctrine of administrative searches, where the state's legitimate interest overrides the cost (to individuals) of the search, and where no one person is singled out by the searches. Your argument doesn't even follow logically, as all the 4th Amendment requires is that searches be "reasonable"…

It's also important to note that you consent to the search by choosing to travel by air in the United States.

That's like saying you consent by leaving your house. I guess you also think the airlines consent to having the TSA search their customers? I'd love it if airlines could opt-out. Let the market decide who thinks it is a risk. They could charge more money for the privilege of flying unmolested.
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