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GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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“ AI is the substrate on which future software gets built” - when you see the word substrate in corporate speak, you know where that’s from…

Relevant video: https://youtu.be/WAUnmQt2Z7Y?si=Gll0AkqyAdsSjqlA

My manager has started speaking like this. He showed a slide recently which had the words AI and Quantum nearby

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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> I love it when people are agressive with me. I highly doubt it considering that you can’t even spell it right you incompetent pillar

I set myself up for that, and im laughing hard

You passed!

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Rather striking statements that have me somewhat concerned: > Agents open merge requests in parallel, trigger pipelines around the clock, and push commits at a rate no human team ever did. Git itself wasn't designed for that load, and bolting AI onto platforms not built for agents is the biggest mistake of this era. We're doing a generational rebuild of the underlying infrastructure to handle agent-rate work as the d…

Won't this be bad for agents since now you need to provide this new API in their prompt, as opposed to just regular git which the model has seen enough in its training data

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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GitLab was never going to be the ones to take the mantle GitHub left on the ground. They’re a “clone” company and have very few original ideas of their own.

They did it better. I’ve never met anyone who has used both GitLab CI and GitHub Actions and thought they were remotely equivalent.

To be fair to GitHub, "GitHub" Actions is just Azure DevOps Pipelines wearing a mask. Which I think explains a lot about it's quality as a feature. It was brought in as a rushed copy-paste of the existing Azure DevOps feature very quickly post acquisition.

I have to regularly use Azure DevOps and the whole platform is painful, and now is rotting on the vine. I hear there is internal strife at Microsoft between Azure DevOps and GitHub products.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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If your product is used bya cross-section of society, then having a cross-section of society build it should lead to a better product no?

If a qualification for the role is "appreciation for certain less represented cultures/ideas/..." then sure. Otherwise, for a backend c++ engineer the benefits are significantly less obvious, to the point it's really hard to make a case for why DEI concerns should trump traditional evaluation metrics for skill. The goal should be to hire the best team for the use case, regardless of gender/race/culture/background.

> why DEI concerns should trump traditional evaluation metrics for skill

It was never trumping skill. This is just a willful rewrite of history perpetuated for some political goal.

The goal was always to ensure that skill had adequate opportunity to be displayed without bias.

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Middle managment is also where most of your negative feedback is lost. I think moving fast in general needs tighter feedback loops and this is simply not possible in large organizations.

Negative feedback is not lost, it's filtered. No one at the top is equipped to deal with the actual feedback from ICs, unless your org is 10 people in a bike shed.

Being unrealistic here, but maybe they should be.

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Calling it text autocomplete is played out and really just makes you look bad at this point.

It's literally text autocomplete. You can dress it up however you want but it takes input text and outputs the most likely next sequence.

By design. At least until we move away from attention being at the core of LLMs

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There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength. Does anyone know what caused this?

I think you need to make a case for DEI being “one of the industry’s greatest strengths”. It’s not obvious to me.

McKinsey has studied this extensively had has repeatedly found that diversity is financially beneficial to companies. They've had at least 4 reports on the subject.

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inc...

Landing page:

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inc...

It's obvious why this is the case if you sit down and think about it. Echo chambers of like-minded individuals can't understand customers as well as a workforce of people who represent the diversity of those customers.

This isn't just diversity of race or gender, it's also diversity of thought and background.

Also critical and under-emphasized: the E and I in DEI, equity and inclusion. Power distance and lack of inclusion can railroad companies into giving the people with the most power the most influence on decisions, rather than giving the best ideas a chance to breathe.

In business a classic example might be "men designing women's clothing." How are you going to understand your customers if none of your employees and leadership resemble those customers? Perhaps you can figure it out and make some decent products but your competitor who has more diversity in their workforce is likely to outperform you, which is exactly what McKinsey's studies have demonstrated.

I will also point out that the only reason anyone started questioning this obviously true business concept and changing opinions into being against DEI is because the Republican Party's strategists figured out that they could appropriate and leverage the term "DEI" and attach it to the latent reactionary racism that much of the US still holds dear.

You can get away with saying "I don't like DEI" in public but if you say "I don't like black people" or "I don't think women should get hired for important roles" [1] that is obviously not acceptable, even though a large percentage of Americans feel that way. Right wing media twisted a largely innocent term into a useful dogwhistle.

[1] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1532673X251369844

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Their old CREDIT values: Collaboration, Results for Customers, Efficiency, Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Iteration, and Transparency. New values: Speed with Quality, Ownership Mindset, Customer Outcomes. In other words, work harder, not smarter, and no more DEI.

There's a 'github down' post here every other day. The ball is right there, bouncing alone in front of the goal, and they just have to position themselves as "we're the stable ones" to score that market when the exodus inevitably happens. Nope, full throttle and stimulants, just because.

I hear you my friend.

We've all heard the joke about two people running from a bear and only one has to be less eaten than the other.

This is a race to the bottom. We shall see who winds.

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