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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by alexaholic »

lhl wrote: post #166

Oh, is this actually out now? If so, great, but I took a quick look and didn't spot any third party review yet. For those interested in this laptop, personally I'd still wait for some reviews from some real world people. Some history on this laptop: - The StarFighter 16 was originally announced back in November 2022 with an original delivery timeline of 3-4 months: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/yjua…

> personally I'd still wait for some reviews from some real world people

Fine, wait, but do encourage everybody else to buy, otherwise you won't see any review from any "real world people"

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by criddell »

wtallis wrote: post #8

Is there something new here? The processor options seem to be two generation old Intel, one generation old Intel, and one generation old AMD.

This might be a dumb question, but for a dedicated Linux computer why would Starlabs choose Intel or AMD over an ARM design?

For a Windows computer, x64 makes sense because backwards compatibility is a big deal. But a Linux machine doesn't have the same problem, at least not to the same degree. Couldn't an ARM-based design be used to make a Linux laptop with Apple-like performance per watt?

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by kokada »

999900000999 wrote: post #185

The prices are still way too high. You're better off buying a Dell XPS on sale, I saw one for about 800$ the other day with 32 GB of ram. Dell has committed to actual Linux support. I don't feel like paying a Linux nerd tax when most Windows laptops are fine. Lenovo seems to have the best support here. Otherwise enjoy the adventure in driver land!

I think there is a very specific niche that this notebook is target for, and this definitely doesn't seem for you, the kind of person that having a cheaper laptop is more important than some of the unique features than this one or a Framework 13 Pro have.

For the unique part of this laptop that AFAIK a Dell XPS won't have is the Coreboot BIOS, that also probably means better support in the long term for BIOS updates.

To be clear, this is also not a laptop for me (but I did pre-order a Framework 13 Pro), but saying "nerd tax" or "anyone who buys one is either giving a donation or an idiot" like the other comment is just focusing in one part (the price) and not looking at the other.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by bluGill »

apetrovic wrote: post #243
bluGill wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are not laptop computers, they are notebooks. The only laptop I've personally seen had a 80286 processor... We call them laptops, but historically that name is wrong. While it is possible to use a notebook on your lap, you are not supposed to. It is a terrible place that is unergonomic. You are supposed to put them on a table of some sort. If you are using it for more than something quick you should have a sepa…

I frequently sit on my balcony, with my MacBook Pro in my lap. I'm still alive. I also frequently use that computer, that doesn't have vents on the bottom, for watching movies in bed. And I don't need to think about vents. My last non-Apple computer was some ThinkPad, with vents on the bottom, and I remember always chasing some book to put under the computer to make the vents free. Boy, how I hated that.

I doubt any computer you can lift will kill you if you put it on your lap. It might be uncomfortable, but it won't kill you. (I'm not about to put some of VAXen I've seen on my lap even though I can technically lift them, but...)

People do all kinds of terrible things to their body. That you do something and seem to be getting away with it doesn't mean you should. Talk to a real doctor trained in this (your regular doctors probably is not) for details.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by jmull »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #86

One of the best investments I’ve ever made was to get an 8TB drive for my laptop. Never having to worry about disk space again is so nice. Consider it if you’re in the market for a new laptop.

I've only been getting machines with 1TB or less.

(1) I only need local internal storage for apps, current data, and active projects.

(2) It helps me stay honest & organized about my backup and archive strategies.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

criddell wrote: post #263
wtallis wrote: post #8

Is there something new here? The processor options seem to be two generation old Intel, one generation old Intel, and one generation old AMD.

This might be a dumb question, but for a dedicated Linux computer why would Starlabs choose Intel or AMD over an ARM design? For a Windows computer, x64 makes sense because backwards compatibility is a big deal. But a Linux machine doesn't have the same problem, at least not to the same degree. Couldn't an ARM-based design be used to make a Linux laptop with Apple-like performance per watt?

They’re still going to be some point somewhere where you can find the amd64 version of a binary and not the ARM version.

I agree with you that it would be more rare than trying to live in Windows ARM world, but I’m not sure it’s entirely a lossless experience yet for your personal computer.

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