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New research suggests people can communicate and practice skills while dreaming

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Have anybody managed to use sleep to learn language? How ?

I have dyslexia and in high school learning my lines for plays was really hard but I loved doing plays, so I recorded myself saying my lines on tape (yah, I'm old) and used double cassette to fill 2 tapes with them, then run them over night while I was sleeping. I've never used this in my adult life but it worked pretty well for my lines and I suppose maybe you could use it to learn a language? Edit: Claude tells me…

I attempted to do this with Japanese but did not make much headway.

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I was at my first real software job and we had an in-house system to provide automated installers for common open-source applications for our end-users. After I started getting familiar with it I had a dream one night that certain input fields (which were very common) could be rather easily exploited to inject shell commands with root access. I woke up convinced that it was a real bug, went to work the next day, and…

When I was young, I dreamt that I was playing guitar and made up a cool song. When I woke up I was so excited, that's something you would hear an old rockstar say about their best song, right? "Came to me in a dream". I jumped out of bed, grabbed the guitar, and started playing the song, every note still clear in my memory. It was a completely random series of notes.

Happens to songwriters too, sometimes it goes somewhere. I had a dream once, on the morning of a July 4th, that for some reason took a really common cliche jazz/blues riff and slowed it way down while I was dreaming of a bunch of Americana images. It became this song, the riff is at the beginning: https://music.apple.com/us/album/so-beautiful/899061469?i=89...

I wish it would happen more often, that's only happened for one other song of mine. Most of the rest are a lot of gritted teeth and frustration.

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>getting banned from the DMT realm Never heard of this before. Is it a real thing? I mean, in the context of psychedelics experiencies. I've tried DMT a few times expecting the legendary all-healing trip everyone talks about but never worked.

There are lots of people who say that they've been banned from the DMT realm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDntV81Q8A&t=522s

When you get the message, hang up the phone. —Alan Watts

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When I was young, I dreamt that I was playing guitar and made up a cool song. When I woke up I was so excited, that's something you would hear an old rockstar say about their best song, right? "Came to me in a dream". I jumped out of bed, grabbed the guitar, and started playing the song, every note still clear in my memory. It was a completely random series of notes.

Many years ago I had such a profound insight in one of my dreams that I woke up and wrote it down on an index card so I wouldn't forget. Here's the pearl of wisdom I captured for posterity: "Emotions — it's emotions that invented and fricasseed the invisible ravioli." (I still have the card.)

Like Flaming Globes of Sigmund

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heart_Attack#Plot

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The voices sounded human, like hushed. I can't say in my case. In Christianity, Satan and demons are recognized as a reality. God allows them access to humanity. That doesn't make God evil, and in fact God uses evil forces to drive people to Him. And we are given the choice to go with whatever party we choose, so the whole experiment hinges on choice. I know that the prince of Earth, Satan, isn't sporting; of course…

It's nice that it gives you comfort but it still boggles my mind how all of this gets rationalized. I also get that it's a personal relationship, but it troubles me because that mindset allows for an incredible amount of damaging behavior for society as a whole. What's worse is that this relationship becomes part of one's self-identity, so that any critique of that worldview is received as a personal attack rather th…

Just philosophically speaking, an accidental entropic universe eventually producing Labubus doesn't work either.

History, law, civilization, anti-slavery and the dignity of man all come from judeo-christian teaching, it's not just comfort/assurance. You just gotta be careful who you follow, there's loads of shysters and crummy humans in religion just like everywhere else as you are probably aware.

Church is supposed to be about community, but it never really was for me. I didn't put in enough effort. I still go for the kids.

What hooked me was Bible Study Fellowship[1] where I got a real education in the Bible. That gave me a community where I have a men's group and they know me and we meet weekly and they give good advice and support when things turn sour.

If you want to understand the architecture of the world, check it out. Next year they're doing Romans, holy shit, that one goes deep. Maybe you're searching, and that's a safe place to simply learn.

[1] https://www.bsfinternational.org/

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Once upon a time, I had a Game Boy with Tetris. Now, I wasn’t particularly good or anything; I was an average player. I was at the end of high school so I’d have been in my late teens.

After just a few days of obsessively playing Tetris it was all I could dream about! I heard the music, saw the pieces falling, rotating, getting faster. It was play play play all through the night! I did get better at the game pretty quickly but I have to admit: the dreams freaked me out a bit! They’re why I stopped playing entirely — I didn’t like the idea something could put itself in my head that way!

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It's nice that it gives you comfort but it still boggles my mind how all of this gets rationalized. I also get that it's a personal relationship, but it troubles me because that mindset allows for an incredible amount of damaging behavior for society as a whole. What's worse is that this relationship becomes part of one's self-identity, so that any critique of that worldview is received as a personal attack rather th…

Just philosophically speaking, an accidental entropic universe eventually producing Labubus doesn't work either. History, law, civilization, anti-slavery and the dignity of man all come from judeo-christian teaching, it's not just comfort/assurance. You just gotta be careful who you follow, there's loads of shysters and crummy humans in religion just like everywhere else as you are probably aware. Church is supposed…

I painfully recognize the value of community offered, as well as a sense of purpose. There's plenty of good things to be had from it. But just as opiates can remove pain and make one "feel good", they have serious risks as well. Marx's comment to this effect is spot on.

We are experiencing a battle of religious fundamentalism and anti-intellectualism that impacts us all. This is why I understand and respect the personal relationship bits, but I fear the fanatics who think their beliefs should be applied to all.

My take on those fanatics is that they are fucking insane and dangerous. The foundation that they rest upon is approved of and validated by the "non crazy, good religious people".

My fear is valid: there are millions of my fellow citizens who would have no concern if I was "terminated" as I am an unbeliever. I wish this was hyperbole and would love to be proven wrong.

The current Secretary of War believes that the actions in Iran are divine and subscribes to the notion of Armageddon as a good thing and is in the position to make that happen. Thus, I find your faith to not be as benign as you do.

edit: I need to emphasize that there's no personal enmity intended in my comment, it's a fear and frustration with the outcome of faith itself.

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My tell is to recognize any room with a piano in it. I naturally want to sit down and play this piano, but the keys are totally wrong. No problem, I'll look around and, lo and behold, dozens more pianos all... with the keys in the wrong places. I can't play anything. "Oh, this again. I must be dreaming. How frustrating."

A very regularly occuring dream is that I'm in a train and realize that I don't have a ticket (never happened IRL), so I want to buy an e-ticket, but the ticketing app does not work. The text changes all the time, the buttons move around, weird errors, and then I realize 'yep I'm in a dream again'. The nicer lucid dreams are those were you can fly or make spectacular light and colors, but I find that it's usually a d…

> [..] app does not work [..] text changes all the time, the buttons move around, weird errors, and then I realize 'yep I'm in a dream again'.

Unfortunately, this is becoming less and less of a "tell"! You're going to have to find a new one.

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