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Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by pdimitar »

dgacmu wrote: post #260
pdimitar wrote: post #163

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Not gonna lie, this sounds like way too much work. What I am mostly looking for is some sort of an easy access to a diluted coffee like the Americano, really. I am OK with buying 1-2kg of beans because I am fairly sure that's going to last me 3-6 months. Cleaning the machine I've done in offices -- 3 minute job. But any more commitment just sounds tiring. I am not a coffee connoisseur by any stretch of the imaginatio…

I finally gave in and got a breville bambino plus and I have no regrets. It was $400 on sale, produces quite decent espresso, foams milk well, has been very reliable, and doesn't heat up the kitchen - I held off getting an espresso machine for years because the instant heat ones always seemed to suck. This one doesn't. I mostly drink Americanos and straight espressos, my wife drinks lattes, everybody is happy. But I…

Nice. Does it have a special option for Americano?

That's the main reason I'm leaning towards Delonghi Magnifica Start. It has a button for Americano. I tried moka pot coffee + diluting it with hot water. It's not the same. :(

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by FireFjord »

adammarples wrote: post #107
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #103

Caffeine is an extremely potent drug. It’s actually kind of crazy to think that a large portion of a country’s population could be “high” on it basically all of the time. And there is a huge industry in place for delivering said drug to as many people as possible by having it available on almost every street corner. And that most people take a fairly non-chalant attitude to giving this drug to kids through sweet drin…

This week as I tried to lower my coffee usage or stop altogether, I had dropped from 3 cups a day to 1. That one suddenly started to make me feel noticeably high, like a bump of cocaine in the morning. I realised that I craved it in the same way and it clicked for me - coffee is literally just a drug I like to take by myself and read the newspaper. It's no different. It's the first thing I think of in the morning bec…

How’s the cold turkey going so far?

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by nchmy »

culi wrote: post #249
nchmy wrote: post #141

It's always amusing to read the self-narratives of a bunch of unacknowledged drug addicts when links like this get posted.

Read the very first paragraph of this paper: > Moderate coffee consumption is associated with various health benefits, including reduced risks of type 2 diabetes, liver disease, cardiovascular diseases, and cancer3. In a large cross-sectional study of 468,629 individuals without clinical cardiovascular disease, light-to-moderate coffee consumption was linked to lower rates of all-cause mortality, cardiovascular morta…

I don't see what relevance your comment has to mine...

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by gabriel-uribe »

PsylentKnight wrote: post #227
gabriel-uribe wrote: post #83

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I'm almost exactly 1 year coffee-free (not caffeine free, but significantly less because tea is much less addictive for me). Also positive in the long-term for me. Fewer digestive issues, less spiky dopamine sensitive or impulsiveness and performance during the day, better memory. I wish it weren't so. But damn was the 3-6 months of anhedonia awful. I still feel pangs of it.

How much coffee were you drinking before quitting? 3-6 months seems like a very long time. As far as I know, most withdrawal symptoms should end within 2 weeks, with the most intense symptoms ending within a few days

3-4 cups a day. Was deeply stressed building products with The ensuing several months were some of the worst in my life (many confounding variables) missing coffee, feeling anhedonic, and inadequately caffeinated/lucid to tackle my problems.

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by dgacmu »

pdimitar wrote: post #261
dgacmu wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finally gave in and got a breville bambino plus and I have no regrets. It was $400 on sale, produces quite decent espresso, foams milk well, has been very reliable, and doesn't heat up the kitchen - I held off getting an espresso machine for years because the instant heat ones always seemed to suck. This one doesn't. I mostly drink Americanos and straight espressos, my wife drinks lattes, everybody is happy. But I…

Nice. Does it have a special option for Americano? That's the main reason I'm leaning towards Delonghi Magnifica Start. It has a button for Americano. I tried moka pot coffee + diluting it with hot water. It's not the same. :(

No, I just pre-fill a cup with hot water from the steam wand (it has a hot water mode) and then pull a double shot of espresso into it.

(That's technically an Australian long black but I like it better - it leaves the crema on top.)

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by me-vs-cat »

ashirviskas wrote: post #99
kristofferR wrote: post #87

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This study is Irish, so I think they likely use 170ml cups? That means a normal mug of ~500ml is 3 cups. Perhaps they even use US coffee cup size, which is 118ml? Honestly, using an unit of measurement that varies from 118ml to 250ml in a scientific paper brings the whole paper into question.

Does it matter what size the cup is? Usually you get the same amount of coffee water + additional water/milk/whatever.

What you're describing applies to coffee shops where a latte has the same amount of coffee regardless of the cup size.

Others are mostly describing someone who makes coffee for themself at home or in a break room. That person likely chooses a cup size depending on how much they coffee they want, how frequently they want a refill, etc.

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by culi »

nchmy wrote: post #263
culi wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the very first paragraph of this paper: > Moderate coffee consumption is associated with various health benefits, including reduced risks of type 2 diabetes, liver disease, cardiovascular diseases, and cancer3. In a large cross-sectional study of 468,629 individuals without clinical cardiovascular disease, light-to-moderate coffee consumption was linked to lower rates of all-cause mortality, cardiovascular morta…

I don't see what relevance your comment has to mine...

You are under the impression that this paper is negative on the health effects of coffee when in fact it is glowing about its health benefits from the onset

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by adammarples »

FireFjord wrote: post #262
adammarples wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This week as I tried to lower my coffee usage or stop altogether, I had dropped from 3 cups a day to 1. That one suddenly started to make me feel noticeably high, like a bump of cocaine in the morning. I realised that I craved it in the same way and it clicked for me - coffee is literally just a drug I like to take by myself and read the newspaper. It's no different. It's the first thing I think of in the morning bec…

How’s the cold turkey going so far?

I've been finding decaf coffee fills in the cravings

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by nchmy »

culi wrote: post #267
nchmy wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see what relevance your comment has to mine...

You are under the impression that this paper is negative on the health effects of coffee when in fact it is glowing about its health benefits from the onset

You're under the impression that I was commenting on the paper. I was commenting on the drug addicts commenting in this thread
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