Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

Post by Teever » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 1:32 AM UTC

nradov wrote: post #249

havaloc wrote: post #86

Much ink has been spilled in the comments already, but as a child of the 80s, computers were a class, and not a lifestyle. If I had gone through school with what's available today, I doubt I would have done as well as I did. Most things were handwritten, I learned cursive, and computer class was Oregon Trail and basic programming essentially. Looking back, I don't think Chromebooks, iPads and the like would have been…

Oh how I hated having to learn cursive when I was in school. What an utter waste of limited instructional time that could have been better spent on mathematics or science or touch typing or creative writing or literally any other subject. If some students really want to learn calligraphy then make it an art elective but don't torture the rest of us.

Post by havaloc » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 1:44 AM UTC

wyldberry wrote: post #241

nicbou wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the available learning material better than it has ever been? As a 30-something, basic AI uses completely blow my mind. It has never been this easy to be curious, because there is a machine in my pocket that reduces the cost of finding answers to nearly zero. I can point my phone at a painting and dig as deep as I want into its subject, artist, movement and so on. It's a real world Pokédex. Then there are count…

My hypothesis is that for us, now post studying in the "old ways", are able to use these tools to increase learning. The fundamental problem seems to be that screens as a basis for learning how to learn, study, and retain information in kids appears to be detrimental to developing that core skill we have already developed.

Post by bruckie » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 1:52 AM UTC

datadrivenangel wrote: post #132

Just gotta do the Mississippi thing and hold kids back unless they meet standards. Don't leave them behind by pretending to leave no one behind.

Post by ckcheng » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:12 AM UTC

nicbou wrote: post #234

havaloc wrote: post #86

Much ink has been spilled in the comments already, but as a child of the 80s, computers were a class, and not a lifestyle. If I had gone through school with what's available today, I doubt I would have done as well as I did. Most things were handwritten, I learned cursive, and computer class was Oregon Trail and basic programming essentially. Looking back, I don't think Chromebooks, iPads and the like would have been…

Isn't the available learning material better than it has ever been? As a 30-something, basic AI uses completely blow my mind. It has never been this easy to be curious, because there is a machine in my pocket that reduces the cost of finding answers to nearly zero. I can point my phone at a painting and dig as deep as I want into its subject, artist, movement and so on. It's a real world Pokédex. Then there are count…

Post by drivebyhooting » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:15 AM UTC

goldfishgold wrote: post #265

drivebyhooting wrote: post #161

I’m curious how does it track with class sizes and tracks (remedial, regular, honors, “gifted”). The level is so low in my local elementary school that the single track math class is still doing addition within 20 for first grade. The funny thing is that the state standard actually measure 2 and 3 digit addition for K and 1st graders, and proficiency at that level would be p75 for a 1st grader. So why is the actual c…

The standards in New York for first grade are adding and subtracting within 20. Which state are you thinking of with higher standards? https://www.nysed.gov/sites/default/files/programs/curriculu...