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Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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What's with the odd name? Apple already has a 15 year-old product called Thunderbolt. Mozilla already has a similarly-named but totally-different product called Thunderbird.

It's clearly a fancy AI powered cable isn't it?

I suppose there is no Thunderbird for Macs then? Or someone in the team would have noticed.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Firefox is pretty cool. Use it every day. Blocks ads Multi account containers Dev tools very good I never notice that it is in any way slow, except for those sites that need infinity cpu on any browser, like jira. What specifically is the issue? To my mind it quietly just gets on with things.

In contrast, the Multi-Account Containers system is the primary reason I avoid Firefox. While it is meant to be an alternative to Chrome's profile switching, it is more a workaround than a complete replacement. I need entirely different sets of extensions for personal, work, and school environments, something containers can't do. Firefox's actual profile support is beyond terrible. To launch a separate instance, Fire…

LMFAO. Containers are not for profiles-purpose. Everyone who needs profiles know this.

And Firefox now needs 2 click to switch profiles.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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What's with the odd name? Apple already has a 15 year-old product called Thunderbolt. Mozilla already has a similarly-named but totally-different product called Thunderbird.

Not sure about the US but in France there’s absolutely no way this would be confused with Apple Thunderbolt. No one talks about it, and I don’t even know it it’s even a thing anymore since USB-C.

As for Thunderbird, it’s not the same name? Idk what to say

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…

Mozilla is doing exactly what you’re describing. They need revenue to ditch their direct financial ties to Google (and I wonder if they hire those high-salary executives solely in the hope of generating that revenue). These AI products, along with all previous failed attempts, are just them trying to gain enough revenue to remove that dependency on Google.

And you your point, AI is probably eating search and with it the prospect of search licensing revenue. Not sure yet what paradigms will be most important to the browser experience but it's critical to get in early and make the inevitable early mistakes and work through them.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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> What's wrong with Firefox? It seems like every thread talking about Firefox always has someone asking that question, so if you search back you should find plenty of reasons. Unfortunately, it’s been my observation that valid and polite criticisms always get downvoted. I don’t understand why. It’s not like downvotes are going to make the problems disappear. Most of us would like Firefox to succeed, and it’s none of…

Upvotes are not going to make problems actually relevant to solve. The question keeps getting asked because people say they have problems. Answers (if any come) tells everyone what the problem is for this one user that raised it. In aggregate we can all see that the problems are not very real for the vast majority of users. The biggest problem users actually face with using Firefox is that web devs don’t want to supp…

LMFAO. You web devs just want more tools to fingerprint and track users. When Firefox raises privacy concerns for your spyware tools, you play like victims and say that "Firefox doesn't want better for users". F that.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Web usb and serial are not just missing, last I checked Mozilla is opting to not implement based on their moral stance. It just puts them behind for some stuff.

It is so frustrating how every thread about Mozilla has people getting upset about contradictory things. Half the thread impunes Mozilla for taking so much money from Google and imply that they are controlled opposition, and the other half gets upset when Mozilla doesn't implement every standard that Google tries to steamroll through the standards bodies because of objections to how they can be used for fingerprintin…

> Half the thread impunes Mozilla for taking so much money from Google and imply that they are controlled opposition, and the other half gets upset when Mozilla doesn't implement every standard that Google tries to steamroll through the standards bodies because of objections to how they can be used for fingerprinting, or complains that the attempts at anti-fingerprinting break websites, etc.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Curious name choice, that's clearly encumbered by other trademarks. Also, my impression is: yay another AI front-end. What does this one differently that the other thirteen in a dozen don't?

> What does this one differently that the other thirteen in a dozen don't? Mozilla's a lot more trustworthy with privacy and data, and they're unlikely to sell the project to someone who only wants to stuff it full of malware/adware/crypto stuff - or do it themselves.

Hmyeah but many others like openwebui are self-hosted and open-source so it's not really like they are untrustworthy.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Curious name choice, that's clearly encumbered by other trademarks. Also, my impression is: yay another AI front-end. What does this one differently that the other thirteen in a dozen don't?

Are they allowed to reuse Thunderbolt when it's already taken in the same industry?

They have enough money for a legal dept. so I imagine so. But it's a confusing choice IMO. Not just because thunderbolt but also because thunderbird as someone else pointed out. But maybe they are trying to make thunder their 'thing', like apple puts an 'i' in front of everything?

Coming soon the browser rebrand to Thunderfox! :)

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Wow this is a confusing name. At a glance it looks identical to Mozilla Thunderbird, but has nothing in common. And then of course it's also the same as a well-known hardware interface. I know it's hard to come up with names and pretty much everything is used by something else, but this seems particularly bad.

I mean there's already an established theme... how hard can it be? Fire-fox Thunder-bird River-wolf Stone-raven ....

Oh that's really good. You're right, something like Riverwolf would fit their branding much more consistently. Just as long as it's not Bikepelican, I'll be happy...

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Web usb and serial are not just missing, last I checked Mozilla is opting to not implement based on their moral stance. It just puts them behind for some stuff.

It is so frustrating how every thread about Mozilla has people getting upset about contradictory things. Half the thread impunes Mozilla for taking so much money from Google and imply that they are controlled opposition, and the other half gets upset when Mozilla doesn't implement every standard that Google tries to steamroll through the standards bodies because of objections to how they can be used for fingerprintin…

> Half the thread impunes Mozilla for taking so much money from Google and imply that they are controlled opposition, and the other half gets upset when Mozilla doesn't implement every standard that Google tries to steamroll through the standards bodies because of objections to how they can be used for fingerprinting, or complains that the attempts at anti-fingerprinting break websites, etc.

Yeah, double standards at its max. Firefox inputs every privacy concerns for these APIs that Google puts 0 Vietnam Dong to care about users' privacy. And those people cry about why Firefox doesn't implement it.

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