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The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador with the Avignon Papacy

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Post by ahazred8ta »

MSFT_Edging wrote: post #167
axus wrote: post #65

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The third group ends up joining the Russian Orthodox church.

Only the super-dedicated ones. I knew a guy in highschool, he was adopted from Russia by a Russian-Jewish family. He was raised Jewish. Somewhere after highschool he got dragged into dark spots of the internet. Him and a close friend of his converted to Eastern Orthodox and began dropping constant Nazi dog whistles. Explicit anti-semitism. Both were in the military, one was an Army Ranger. Their posts were reported t…

Many people who switch religions are not completely tacked down around the edges.

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Post by littlestymaar »

xp84 wrote: post #120
tallanvor wrote: post #106

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Yeah, no, that's an insane claim to make. Obviously American education covers some information about religion in history classes, but that level of detail about catholic history is not normal curriculum for elementary, middle, or high school.

Can confirm - I had an excellent, Christian School education through Middle School, and even we didn't hear about that.

In France History is a very big part of the curriculum (almost a quarter of the time until you get to high school) and this episode is barely mentioned despite happening in our very country.

Re: The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador with the Avignon Papacy

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Post by 1659447091 »

_doctor_love wrote: post #181
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #151

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> Also...I don't think a fast-follow conflict in Cuba right after this Iran affair is going to do much good, but that seems like where their appetite is going next. I was watching a video by Man carrying thing about Iran war, (he makes skit about things which are still good) and he mentioned the Cuba thing. I am being 100% serious right now, I thought that it was just a joke of the skit. Are we actually being serious…

> Are we actually being serious right now of America doing a conflict with Cuba? Sadly, I think the answer is yes. Iran might put a brief damper / brake on the timeline but the current US administration seems intent on seizing the moment and pushing out the Castro government once and for all. It's "beef" that goes a long way back, if you look up the history of Cuba, even how Fidel Castro first came to power was under…

> It's "beef" that goes a long way back, if you look up the history of Cuba [...] And Cuba had been a point of major US economic interests as well so the USA was not happy to see the rise of the Communists in their backyard.

This is Mark Rubio*, and only Rubio. This admin is all about letting the people who helped put it together each have their turn at using the US as the vehicle for their personal grievances and profits. No part of this admin cares about the United States of America or its history. It's simply a tool for them, they won't have to deal with the fallout from trading it in for generational wealth that puts them above it.

*The NYT has many pieces on this

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Post by Arodex »

rawgabbit wrote: post #201
drumhead wrote: post #104

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Fun Fact - Elbridge Colby is a Catholic, maybe time for excommunication?

There are Catholics who argue that Francis and Leo are not real Catholics and will argue Trump is the chosen one. Some are my family members. I am as always speechless.

Yeah. Trump fits the definition of "the whore of Babylon" to a T (a sex maniac coming from New York) and not only they are unable to even imagine it, they think the exact opposite.

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Post by Arodex »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #38
sqircles wrote: post #20

I have recently deepened my search in Christianity which started with the Catholic Church, one of few points I struggle with when it comes to Catholicism is the papacy, and the Avignon Papacy debacle and the events that followed (a la Western Schism) has quite a bit to do with that. I was a little confused by what they meant here by “threatening with the Avignon Papacy.” If anyone else is curious, I think the phrase…

There's way too much misdirected emphasis on the pope and ecclesiastical hierarchy imo. I wouldn't think too hard about it. You can be catholic and not like the pope just the same as you can be french and not like the king. Or american and not like the president. There is only one divinity on earth today and that's the holy spirit (consubstantial with the father and son), indwelling and guiding humanity on many level…

>You can be catholic and not like the pope

Quick, read the Nicene creed aloud right now...

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Post by ratrace »

ecshafer wrote: post #169
Tossrock wrote: post #86

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This is hilarious. You think middle school students know about the Avignon papacy? They don't even know about the Ford presidency.

I think you are missing the key qualifier with a passing interest in history . I absolutely knew of the avignon papacy in middle school.

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Post by theodric »

queenkjuul wrote: post #245
theodric wrote: post #187

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Just read the fucking article, what is wrong with you

Laziness, and only marginally caring about this international drama that affects me not in the slightest

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Post by Bud »

stevenwoo wrote: post #36
School-Cotton wrote: post #14

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My guess is the vast majority of those are Hispanic Americans who have been Catholic since birth, and not part of the modern far-right Catholic conversion movement (like Vance).

Trump got 48 percent of Hispanic American vote in 2024, a historic high for the GOP. The anti women and anti immigrant parts (in spite of what appears to be cognitive dissonance) of the GOP platform are very popular in that community from what I have seen.

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Post by defrost »

lostlogin wrote: post #218
Aurornis wrote: post #192

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That's how ceasefires work. One of the conditions of a ceasefire is that they cease firing. There was no firing prior to the war.

Where does the tax on shipping fit into this? The US administration and military look like fools.

Not the military, they largely did is they were instructed and mostly backed off much of the suggested full on war crimes.

The US administration and the parachuted in TV host head of Crusades that pushed out all the thinky cautious types .. they look like prize idiots, as they always have.

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