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Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by asdfman123 »

blazespin wrote: post #257
tty456 wrote: post #92

I don't get the comments trashing this. If it slightly beats or even matches Opus 4.6, it means Meta is capable of building a model competitive with the leading AI company. Sure, they spent a lot of money and will have on-going costs. But how much more work would it take to turn that into a coding agent people are willing to try (and pay for) along side their usage of a collection of agents (Claude, Codex, etc)? Also…

Because bots and trillion dollar ipos and even bigger stakes. People need to better appreciate the level of manipulation going on. Social media has an outsized impact. Bots and even people are getting paid to post and upvote/downvote narratives.

> people are getting paid to post and upvote/downvote narratives

This problem will be solved shortly with better AI (if it hasn't essentially been solved already).

No more humans in the loop, much lower costs for social media manipulation. Welcome to the future!

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by sunaookami »

btown wrote: post #225
yalogin wrote: post #181

Meta is in a weird spot. They caught up late to the game and instead of releasing llama as a chat bot they open sourced it, precisely because they lost the mind share. They thought chatbot is not their product and I am sure they are regretting it now. Mark is obsessed with becoming the android of something and he poured billions into the metaverse thinking he is first and failed. He then open sourced llama and wanted…

> ended up enabling groq For those reading fast, this isn't a reference to SpaceX's Grok, this is Groq.com - with its custom inference chip, and offerings like https://groq.com/blog/introducing-llama-3-groq-tool-use-mode... and https://console.groq.com/landing/llama-api

Really liked Groq due to its speed but it seems like after Nvidia bought it it has been discontinued...

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by olelele »

Eufrat wrote: post #245
holoduke wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. Everybody is talking about ai. Everybody is using it. It's by far the most popular new tool human beings are using currently. As popular as mobile phones or spoons. And maybe as disruptive as the steam engines. AI companies are becoming the largest software companies on the planet. Everything points into that direction. Trillions of dollars are waiting in the market to be collected.

Based on what? A lot of this is vibes and FOMO; just like any economic bubble. There is no objective evidence of anything you’ve said. It isn’t even clear if AI has contributed positively to global economic growth. It reminds me a lot of the late 90s and the dot-com mania. Slapping a domain on a commercial would make your stock go up even if there was no substance to any of it. The real shame is this mania drowns out…

You can do anything at zombo.com!

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Post by QQ00 »

spprashant wrote: post #193
khalic wrote: post #107

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Give it a few years, or month. Tiny models are getting outrageously good

I wonder if this is why the tech cartel is buying up all the hardware? If the average user gets convinced they could run LLMs for cheap at home, you cannot trap users in your walled garden anymore.

They actually need it because the demand is higher than expected from consumers. And because they need a moat since every big corporation trying to capture that market too, they need the moat for the biggest compute and energy they can get.

Also businesses is were the money at, not regular consumers (especially tech-savvy folk who run models locally).

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Post by QQ00 »

cedws wrote: post #166
dist-epoch wrote: post #58

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The moat is in the compute and the energy access. And further down the line in chips, which is why Elon is building a fab now. There are plenty of capable models on HuggingFace, yet I have no way of running them.

That fab will never be delivered. In five years you might see the manufacturing equivalent of a person dancing in spandex.

The only company that musk own and actually achieve something is spacex. so I believe you. He likes to hype things beyond what is actually possible.

spacex is engineering masterpiece with how they revolutionize the space industry.

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by mliker »

_2d30 wrote: post #46

Ran some of my internal benchmarks against this and I'm very unimpressed. I don't think this moves them into the OAI v Anthropic v Gemini conversation at all. Major analytical errors in their response to multiple of my technical questions.

It’s quite good for multimodal cases that 3 billion people would use it for though it lags in scientific areas

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by girvo »

mirekrusin wrote: post #242
daft_pink wrote: post #43

This really reinforces the idea that the AI race and the Railroad Mania of the 19th century are very similar. So many different companies are going to have similarly powerful ai that there will be no moat around it and it will be cheap. They will never earn their investment back.

What people seem to miss is that they don't need to get the investment back from people, they will get it from machines.

People are the one with money, though, at the end of the day.
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