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> If this guy has the money for a season pass (!) he has the money for a smartphone. Right, but he is wanting to choose the season pass over the smartphone. If he buys a smartphone then he won't have the money for a season pass anymore. It turns out you only get to spend x units of currency once.
A cheap undubsidized Android phone is $40 on Amazon
81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#262From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…
> If this guy has the money for a season pass (!) he has the money for a smartphone. It seems like he just likes the nostalgia of paper tickets. But that's not a reason to add a separate ticketing flow just for him any more, like they had been up till now.
If you have money for a tea or coffee, you have money to send to me. Just because someone may have the means to buy something doesn't mean they they should be excluded from participating in cultural events for not purchasing and maintaining that particular thing. (Citizens often times over subsidize the stadiums in which the team is based in)
I think it's the golden state warriors that forces you to give them your biometrics to enter the stadium.
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#263My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…
> in order to identify me We should stop accepting this ridiculous excuse. Our phone numbers are not identifiers. How does me telling a bank "My phone number is 123-456-7890" give them any assurance whatsoever that I am the person whose name will be printed on a loan document?
I think you missed the point. The process creates an identifier, by strongly associating you with the phone number.
This association allows the bank to quickly establish your identity later when you call up or use online services.
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If this guy has the money for a season pass (!) he has the money for a smartphone. Maybe it's not about the money. Maybe he does not want the negative consequences that come along with having a smartphone. Maybe he has dexterity issues that make using a smartphone difficult. Maybe he doesn't want to install their invasive app. Maybe he finds that paper tickets are easier to manage. Maybe he recognizes that the vend…
>Maybe it's not about the money. Maybe he does not want the negative consequences that come along with having a smartphone. Maybe he doesn't then get any of the benefits of having a smartphone. I don't understand why we need to bend over backwards for folks who have chosen to ignore modernity. There was a woman in my neighborhood association at one point who would throw a fit about us using email for communication be…
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
> At some point, you have to cut off previous technologies because virtually everyone's moved to something better. I don't agree that it's better. Why should I have to worry about my ticket running out of battery power or being such a high-value pickpocket target once I'm already in the venue? The latter is a huge issue at music festivals for example: - https://old.reddit.com/r/OutsideLands/search/?q=phone+stolen...…
In most cases, digital event tickets are a QR code which is just an alphanumerical code. You can easily print them, so you don't have to worry about your phone. I've never seen digital tickets which aren't printable.
Here you go; now you have: https://help.ticketmaster.com/hc/en-us/articles/265843090383...
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#266From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…
> At some point, you have to cut off previous technologies because virtually everyone's moved to something better. I don't agree that it's better. Why should I have to worry about my ticket running out of battery power or being such a high-value pickpocket target once I'm already in the venue? The latter is a huge issue at music festivals for example: - https://old.reddit.com/r/OutsideLands/search/?q=phone+stolen...…
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If this guy has the money for a season pass (!) he has the money for a smartphone. Right, but he is wanting to choose the season pass over the smartphone. If he buys a smartphone then he won't have the money for a season pass anymore. It turns out you only get to spend x units of currency once.
A cheap undubsidized Android phone is $40 on Amazon
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
> At some point, you have to cut off previous technologies because virtually everyone's moved to something better. I don't agree that it's better. Why should I have to worry about my ticket running out of battery power or being such a high-value pickpocket target once I'm already in the venue? The latter is a huge issue at music festivals for example: - https://old.reddit.com/r/OutsideLands/search/?q=phone+stolen...…
I'm not a fan of the "something better" phrasing myself. It's very much anti-systems-thinking. Engineers should be honest that everything is a tradeoff. For the up-front convenience you get with phone tickets, you impose additional failure modes, dependency chains, and accessibility issues that simply weren't a problem with paper ticketing. The "phone-ification" of everything will probably bite us in the behind in th…
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's their choice, but they also choose to suffer the consequences. Expecting the world to cater to your needs specifically is such a typical boomer attitude and should no longer be tolerated.
While we're at it, let's get rid of the ADA. Those disabled people expecting the world to cater to their needs specifically are so abusive to those of us with perfectly functional bodies and flexible minds.
Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone
#270From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…
This logic justifies buying any other unrelated product as a condition of being allowed to buy baseball tickets. Does this mean that the Dodgers should be able to make "owning a car" also a condition of being allowed to buy baseball tickets? After all, if you can afford season tickets, you should be able to afford a car payment. Maybe they should only let people in who own rolexes because, hey, a season ticket holder should be able to afford a nice watch, too.
I can't think of any other case pre-smartphone, where I'd be denied the ability to buy a product simply because I didn't want to have to buy another totally unrelated product as a condition. There's probably an example that's not immediately coming to mind, but I don't think it was common or justified.