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If you're not religious, I would like to hear why or how we are not machines.
How are we machines?
Edit: If you mean machine in a more colloquial sense that's fine. Let us first get clear if we mean machine in that sense or in sense of any physical mechanism.
I’ve listened to his three top songs on Spotify. They’re practically the same songs with different lyrics. I know approximately 0 music theory and I could tell they’re almost identical.
I can't find any of his songs on Top 100[1], is it another list? [1]: https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/top-100-usa/pl.606afcbb7...
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Have you ever been to a live rock show and felt exhilarated during it, feeling connected to the crowd and the musicians and the music? AI won't replace that, and I feel bad for people who won't get to experience it because "AI is good enough".
I have. It's exhilarating. The feeling of involved in the crowd during a great live performance by excellent musicians is one of the best things I've ever experienced. But I've also seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gMX_hR-RoM
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I have. It's exhilarating. The feeling of involved in the crowd during a great live performance by excellent musicians is one of the best things I've ever experienced. But I've also seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gMX_hR-RoM
The people in the crowd are all just kind of standing around watching robots. It doesn't look very exhilarating to me.
(I'll do it again, too.)
It's similar pattern that we've seen previously, but exaggerated by modern trends and modern technology: the most popular cultural items will often be meaningless and base, and if you want something substantial you need other ways to find meaningful content.
right, but at least human hands used to touch the process. even in 2000s copy-paste boy band era it was at least human
I don't really like much of the "mainstream" music right now. It's basically whining, high pitched young men. They all sound exactly the same to me, you can't hear or make outall the words, they play the guitar, sort of and all bass sounds have been scrubbed from the track.
Even if they write their own songs, which I honestly think many do, I don't see the point, when it's basically a stream of high pitched tones which you can't hear. Even if you read the lyrics, they are super generic. Might as well be AI, and I think that's really the point. Most people don't give a fuck, AI or not, who cares, it's noise coming out the speaker or headphones. It's not there because it's music, it's there to be noise and isolate you from the world.
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There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next to nothing You train an AI on that, in order to create something that combines all of the best parts that you want. If anything, I think AI music is the natural progression of innate human desire to leverage and "stand on the shoulders of giants" to create something bigger from smaller pieces.
Which is of course nonsense because LLM is from definition unable to bring in something new. It's not standing on shoulders of giants, it's just making endless copies of them.
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Is formulaic pop music produced by a corporate label that's designed to push all the right buttons more "human" than the average track you find published on Suno? I wouldn't say so. Pop music was already to some extent a commodity.
Actually, it is more human, because there are humans involved at each level. Doesn't matter if you think the music sucks, it's definitionally more human than AI music.
Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.
If the artists have live shows, it's generally a good indication it's not AI (for now at least).
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If you consider say elevator music - music that's just there to fill space, rather than to be listened too - then I don't think there's that much difference between using AI to produce it and using AI to produce clip art or boilerplate code.
Music as wallpaper vs music as artistic paintings. We are fine with mass-producing wallpaper with machines. People buy this every day, no problem. We are not fine with mass-producing framed paintings that are "art". Both hang on the wall as decoration. Essentially the same purpose. But we have very different feelings about them and hold them to very different standards. Music is the same. We have muzak - background m…
Sure “we” are; we just call them “prints” or “posters” instead of ”paintings”.