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US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

exceptione wrote: post #146
harmmonica wrote: post #17

I know this US government is fully-committed to fossil fuels and about as rabidly anti-renewables as can be, but I'm still shocked to see things like this. And I'm fully aware of Trump's Scotland experience and how that contributed or directly led to this, but, still, shocked. And then I'm also shocked because I know that at least half, if not a good bit more, of US citizens are in agreement with this strategy. Not s…

> I know this US government is fully-committed to fossil fuels and about as rabidly anti-renewables as can be, Don't fall for the political narratives, they are designed to distract you while the theft is taking place. The sponsors of the circus are rabidly cynical and pro-selfish. They are spreading the narratives, not believing in them. There is certainly a few conservatives in power who hold that the earth is only…

Don’t leave us hanging, what exactly is happening at the crime scene?

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Post by danny_codes »

angelgonzales wrote: post #79

This seems like a good thing considering the “TotalEnergies CEO Pouyanné said offshore wind was "not the most affordable way to produce electricity" in the US, which he identified as being natural gas-fired power plants.” Not sure why we’re building offshore wind plants when land based gas plants provide cheaper energy. We need to be reducing the cost of living for working people and not raising it. Our goal should b…

I think you forgot to account for the massive emissions. Which we have to pay for eventually. Don’t know if you noticed but the majority of the US had the hottest March on record just now. Like a few days ago. There is an enormous cost to emissions. Probably for each $1 spent on gas power there’s $50 to ameliorate the emissions. Building more gas capacity is perhaps the stupidest economic policy imaginable

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Post by jmward01 »

jmward01 wrote: post #139
softwaredoug wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC those were solar hot water heaters. More of a curiosity than something legitimately powering the white house.

The symbolism, and the stupidity, was there though. As time has gone on it has been more clear every year how intelligent Carter's administration was and how terrible the following administration was. Investing in/promoting solar was just one of many smart moves by Carter that were attacked purely to gain political points that only harmed us in the long run.

"In the year 2000, the solar water heater behind me, which is being dedicated today, will still be here supplying cheap, efficient energy. A generation from now, this solar heater can either be a curiosity, a museum piece, an example of a road not taken, or it can be just a small part of one of the greatest and most exciting adventures ever undertaken by the American people: harnessing the power of the Sun to enrich our lives as we move away from our crippling dependence on foreign oil." - Jimmy Carter (1979) [1]

[1] https://energyhistory.yale.edu/president-jimmy-carters-remar...

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

RealityVoid wrote: post #198
kakacik wrote: post #42

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People voted in repeatedly a visibly primitive person (plus quite a few other things but lets not go there now), then they get primitive behavior. An honest question - what the heck did you expect? Some sophisticated rational discussions instead of dumb ego tantrums?

I would have expected them not to vote a primitive person. And the most shocking part is people pretending he's got some sort of master plan or that the rest of us are just not seeing his genius. Absolute cinema, I swear.

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

lovich wrote: post #205
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #168

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You know if demand goes down for fossil fuels because the grid is powered by renewables then the cost would decrease right? Also “kilometers”? “petrol tank”? Thanks for holding three fingers up and letting me know you’re cosplaying as an American

I live in Australia.

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Post by andyferris »

feurio wrote: post #126
tombert wrote: post #53

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The overrated and very annoying "sun", the so-called "star" that our planet goes around has been going unquestioned for too long! Many people have been asking for a long time, perhaps even before Obama, to remove the sun from the sky and replace it with our beautiful clean coal towers!

"Since the beginning of time man has yearned to destroy the sun" - Charles Montgomery Burns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3LbxDZRgA4

Thank you. I needed that.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

paxys wrote: post #65

Serious question, but not entirely related to the topic - how are “smart” people in the US preparing for the next 20-30 years? - Assume everything will be fine and America will remain a global economic superpower. - Plan an exit to a more serious, stable country. - Some option in the middle of the two to hedge your bets?

there is an absurdly large rush of americans applying for canadian citizenship because canada recently allowed anyone with ancestry, multi-generations back, to qualify

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Post by eru »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #147
while_true_ wrote: post #101

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NY Times phrases it as a reimbursement to TotalEnergies for relinquishing wind leases that they paid for. The US made the reimbursement contingent on them investing in fossil fuel projects. "The deal is an extraordinary transfer of taxpayer dollars to a foreign company for the purposes of boosting the production of fossil fuels." Total waste of $1 Bil of taxpayer dollars. If the oil and gas industry want to shut down…

Why would they do that when they already paid for a corrupt new regime to do it for them?

Slight tangent:

The US is a net oil exporter. If fossil fuel companies were so influential, wouldn't we expect them to be in favour of less fossil fuel production elsewhere?

Instead the what seems to be influential is the average Joe who's complaining about the price at the pump.

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #235
tomjakubowski wrote: post #225

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With Trump getting a little bit less than half the vote and a 65% turnout, "did not vote" was the plurality.

Which is functionally a vote for the status quo . Someone who can't bother to vote isn't going to bother e.g. protesting or otherwise affirming their rights.

Or defeatism. Discouragement campaigns go a long way: “both sides are bad so don’t vote!”

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Post by mh8h »

eru wrote: post #268
entropicdrifter wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they do that when they already paid for a corrupt new regime to do it for them?

Slight tangent: The US is a net oil exporter. If fossil fuel companies were so influential, wouldn't we expect them to be in favour of less fossil fuel production elsewhere? Instead the what seems to be influential is the average Joe who's complaining about the price at the pump.

US fossil fuel companies also make money from projects outside US. They explore, build the infrastructure, and operate oil fields for other countries.
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