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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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> a non manoeuvrable warhead (would just be intercepted) Intercepted? In the UK, by what? London has no missile defence system that I am aware of.

A missile would need to fly all the way over Europe before reaching London. It would be noticed, jets would be scrambled and it would be shot. Just like what happened here.

They can fly well above any commercial and military aircraft.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Saying that your enemy "plans" to do something, is never justification for mass murdering civilians. It's interesting that this is basically the same playbook Zionists are currently using. Hurl some accusations, then start killing civilians.

Haman’s plans weren’t theoretical. He had taken steps to put them into action, just like Iran has taken steps for decades in attacking Israel. Likewise, the people that were killed weren’t civilians. They were supporters of Haman. Undoubtedly, some innocent people were killed. That’s just how war works.

> modern scholarship generally regards it as a historical novel with legendary elements, not a reliable account of Purim’s origins.

It's fiction.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Your comment made me realise that while Iran has attacked a dozen countries, they have yet to attack a school or a hospital. Not condoning anyone but shows the priority of both sides.

They did however murder thousands of protesters in their own streets in January, and who knows how much more dissidents over the years. This one was just this week: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-execution-teen-wrestler-ja... So there's that.

The internal conflict over corruption, water issues and handling of the protesters had a decent chance to cause meaningful changes in government. Starting a war and attacking their civilians put those chances to bed.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Anyone thinking they can talk their way into controlling Iran, a fundamentalist fanatic country with a very loud and visible doctrine literally calling to destroy the west, is delusional. The western "avoid conflict at all cost" approach is extremely detrimental.

I don't think they had any reason to destroy us until trump decided to kick the hornet's nest. In fact they were quite reasonable and agreed to inspections of their nuclear programme which is also something Trump broke before, and now with his petty war. I mean they hate Israel way more than us and they never attacked them either (until this war obviously). And regime change was already happening there slowly. They w…

You are just uninformed.

Iran has sponsored, built and trained organizations all over the middle east so they could destroy Israel: Hamas, the Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon and groups in Iraq are all proxies propped up by Iran.

Iran was the first to attack Israel, this happened in 2024 when Israel killed Nasrallah (Hezbollah) and Iran fired hundreds of ballistic missiles directly at Israel.

Iran hates the US way more than Israel, but Israel is closer so obviously they are directing their efforts according to what's plausible. Iran calls the US and Israel "the big satan" and "little satan" in almost all internal communication. Just a couple of weeks ago the entire Iranian parliament chanted "death to America" and "death to Israel" (you can see the videos online). Iran had US flags laid out on the floor of their facilities so that anyone going by will walk over the US flag.

Despite being very uncomfortable, the war is probably necessary because as seen by Iran's attack on Diego Garcia, they have way longer range than previously thought, they have a deposit or military grade uranium enough for 10-12 bombs, they were completely dishonest about their nuclear programs, and waiting until Iran had nukes meant you couldn't ever stop them. You'd have another North Korea but ten times worse, as the Iranian regime is truly a fundamentalist insane leadership. Trump may be unhinged but he's right about Iran using nukes if they had them.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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You're being disingenuous - the "protestor" was caught on camera literally hacking a policeman to pieces. He murdered a policeman, and will now be executed.

Can you back this with linking the said videos and maybe some info on legal proceedings of the fair trial in which this person was convicted? I’m curious.

From that article, on CBS News which isn't exactly known for being a fan of this administration:

"Rights groups said the trio were executed without a fair trial and had given confessions under torture."

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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> see a swift end to the conflict

I'll tell you a swifter method: rest of the world attack the US efforts and send them home. Then lock up the presidumb [sic] somewhere.

They stirred the hornets' nest. Now the rest of the world are getting stung, slowly dragging into an all-out war.

The rest of us could really use a regime change now--and it's not in Iran.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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that would be stupid and their regime is not stupid

> their regime is not stupid It’s pretty fucking stupid. Convening the top brass above ground, failing to scatter the navy, bombing Azerbaijan and Qatar and Oman. I’m not saying the individual actors are dumb. But the result of the competing centers of power between the IRGC, military proper, clerical establishment and god knows who else produces a stupid strategy.

what would be a non-stupid strategy?

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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I think the article downplays the element that the attack probably achieved its goal which was not to actually hit something at Diego Garcia, but to show that thing 2500 miles from Iran are potentially targetable by Iran. That starts conversations like the one here and in other fora about whether or not Iran would limit themselves to military targets (Russia doesn't as an example) and if not how could Europe and its…

Except it would be very weird goal to achieve because it's only give more reasons to bomb whole country into oblivion and justify deployment of ground troops.

maybe they aren't as worried about that as they should be. maybe america isn't as worried about that as it should be.

but, what are you saying? it would be weird for iran to act in a way that might provoke escalation? you mean in the totally unprovoked war israel/america launched against them?

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Or maybe you could ask yourself why people chant this. Maybe people don't fancy your mass murder of their Palestinian brothers and sisters. Maybe Iran didn't appreciate the US supporting Saddam Hussein to fight a war against Iran where he used chemical weapons against the population. The might be a reason the whole region hates Israel and the US. Just saying.

Or maybe you could ask yourself why most of the rest of the region allows the US to have military bases on their soil, and why they are so concerned about protecting themselves against Iran . The "whole region" fears Iran more than they hate the US, judged by their behavior.

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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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considering that there were already provocations about "unsuccessful attacks on Turkey", I have doubts that this attack was also Iran's the "notable distance/unexpectedly high range" quoted everywhere seems like a nice war justification: "see, they do have rockets that can threaten us!"

I'm suspicious as well...

Supposedly this missile was hit during the boost phase over Iran, the evidence is that it was actually targeted at Diego Garcia relies on US reports.

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