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For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…
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If you're going to comment on the conflict, at least learn to distinguish between The West Bank and Gaza.
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No that actually never happened. The very day Israel declared its independence its army was already outside the territory proposed for it by the UN's partition plan. Israel itself never declared what its borders were.
wrong Here are only some examples of Israel compromising (land and other) for the sake of peace: 1. Hebron Protocol — 1997 2. Wye River Memorandum — 1998 3. Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum — 1999 4. Gaza Disengagement Plan — 2005 5. Naharayim/Baqura and Tzofar/Ghamr special-regime expiration — 2019 6. Israel-Lebanon Maritime Boundary Agreement — 2022 Those only that were applied, many more offers were rejected by other si…
Netanyahu's statement on the Hebron protocol:
"We are using the time interval in the agreement to achieve our goals: to maintain the unity of Jerusalem [illegally occupied], to ensure the security depth necessary for the defence of the State, to insist on the right of Jews to settle in their land [i.e. further the illegal colonisation], and to propose to the Palestinians a suitable arrangement for self-rule but without the sovereign Powers which pose a threat to the State of Israel."
Wye River Memorandum- never implemented, Israel only withdrew from 2% of area C instead of the agreed 13%.
Gaza Disengagement Plan. In the words of Dov Weissglass, Sharon's senior adviser:
"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process, and when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda. And all this with authority and permission. All with a presidential blessing and the ratification of both houses of Congress. That is exactly what happened. You know, the term 'peace process' is a bundle of concepts and commitments. The peace process is the establishment of a Palestinian state with all the security risks that entails. The peace process is the evacuation of settlements, it's the return of refugees, it's the partition of Jerusalem. And all that has now been frozen.... what I effectively agreed to with the Americans was that part of the settlements would not be dealt with at all, and the rest will not be dealt with until the Palestinians turn into Finns. That is the significance of what we did."
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At the same time, there must be a point where general humanity overrides community guidelines.
Why? Everyone has alternative news sources where they can find such stories, and there’s nothing new here. There’s always some tragedy that you could argue deserves more attention, I don’t think we should hold our guidelines hostage to pleas for the heart.
I don't think that's an accurate framing of the situation. It's a single post that enough people decided was worthy of being upvoted to the front page. I think allowing the community to decide is far more inline with the spirit of hacker news than the outright banning a category of posts.
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At the same time, there must be a point where general humanity overrides community guidelines.
Why does Gaza get 10x the coverage on HN and other social media well, when what has been happening in Sudan in the same time period is 10x worse? (The 10x coverage number is from algolia hn search, the 10x worse number is from reported killings in the past year)
For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…
The situation in the West Bank (and similar forces are at play in Gaza, too) remind me of what's wrong with American policing, at a far more extreme scale. The people charged with enforcing the peace deploy lethal force with near impunity at the slightest "provocation" (a child throwing a stone, a car driving too fast); I wouldn't be surprised if IDF forces deployed to the West Bank are trained much like American pol…