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Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Palantir is dragging a small independent Swiss investigative newspaper to court because they reported[1] about Palantir getting the door slammed in their face in by several Swiss government agencies including the military over the last years. No one wants this turd of a company. [1] https://www.republik.ch/2026/02/18/how-tenaciously-palantir-...

The company I worked for has a contract with them. My best guess as to why is that shareholders use their power over management to force publicly traded companies to funnel money into the pockets of their mafia friends. I can’t explain what actual business value the platform provides.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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I still don't understand why Theil and Karp decided to name their surveillance tech company after a device that is best known for being used by an evil dark lord to decieve and corrupt. It's like the Mitchell and Webb skit "are we the baddies" except they're the ones who designed the uniforms with skulls on them.

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>Thiel apparently gives talks about the Antichrist

You forgot to mention the part where Thiel tells, in all seriousness, that the Antichrist is on Earth, now, and may literally be Greta Thunberg [1].

And that's one of the reason Greta Thunberg must be opposed.

> He's actually a very thoughtful Christian

That's one way to upsell "deranged".

Thoughtful he is (as many lunatics are).

As far as religious aspects go, him losing faith in democracy after women and "benefits recipients" got the right to vote[2] doesn't sound very Christian-like to my ears.

Neither does his argument to end affirmative action[3], if you read it carefully, but that's a whole another can of worms.

> following the works of Rene Girard.

Ah yes, the fine fellow who (like Thiel) sees religion as a technology to manage humans by designating sacrificial scapegoats, which is the Girard's final solution to all problems.

In Girard's (and Thiel's) view, scapegoating isn't only an emergent outcome, it is necessary to stave off the end of the world.[3]

Thiel's support of Trump and his influence and backing of the Heritage Foundation / Project 2025 is very consistent with this philosophy.

Trump/Project 2025 make scapegoats out of immigrants, DEI, minorities, trans people, women who don't dedicate their lives to being breeding machines, ... - the list goes on.

So, in Thiel, we have:

- a gay man (who destroyed the paper that outed him out of spite) who thinks women are not just ewww, but are the reason democracy failed and is antithetical to freedom and are to blame for the Great Depression. And one of them (Greta Thunberg) is literally the Antichrist, in all likelihood.

- a white German raised in apartheid South Africa[5], in a city described as "more German than Germany" in 1976 where "Heil Hitler!" salutes were still the norm [6], who thinks that affirmative action has never been a good idea and was utterly unnecessary by the 1990s in the US because, quote [3][7]: “There are almost no real racists . . . in America’s younger generation”, and whose politics have declared "DEI" as an enemy. Here's a reminder that DEI stands for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.

- a Christian who sees Christianity as an instrument of "political theology". See, aside from "let's make scapegoats" Girard, he has been heavily influenced by the writing of Carl "Hitler is good for us" Schmitt[8]. Schmitt was not just a Nazi, but a jurist who provided legal (and moral) basis for Hitler's power grab.

- a self-proclaimed "Libertarian" whose primary source of fortune is selling totalitarian surveillance products to governments

We have that person effectively controlling the US policy and executive actions (Thiel has groomed JD Vance into vice presidency[9]).

I don't see any signs that Thiel has a sense of humor at all, dark or otherwise.

But the universe in which he gets to do all that and be called a "very thoughtful Christian" sure does.

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[1] https://theconversation.com/peter-thiel-thinks-greta-thunber...

[2] https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio...

[3] https://stanfordmag.org/contents/the-case-against-affirmativ...

[4] https://thenewinquiry.com/the-scapegoating-machine/

[5] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk...

[6] https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/30/archives/southwest-africa...

[7] https://www.ft.com/content/cfbfa1e8-d8f8-42b9-b74c-dae6cc618...

[8] https://peripateticpastor.com/2025/02/18/a-totalitarian-bent...

[9] https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-libertarian-tech-ti...

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Can someone explain why Palantir are seen as such a threat? My understanding is their product is a PowerBI++ and they don't host any user data themselves. Are people scared of backdoors?

The United States is no longer a reliable ally. That is the reality that the world is having to adapt to. Even when Trump is gone, it will take a long time to rebuild that trust.

No longer? Never was. The Epstein Alliance does not have your interest at heart. Whatever comes after those oligarchs decay will probably be worse.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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If by spectrum the psychopathy spectrum is meant, then yes, he's on the spectrum.

People frequently misunderstand me for someone who is lacking emotions. I can't speak for Karp but I just experience and express them differently. He may be on the psychopathy spectrum. I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if people are misunderstanding him. Given you're making assumptions that he is on the psychopathy spectrum here, I will assume statistically that's unlikely and it's much more likely that peop…

> People frequently misunderstand me for someone who is lacking emotions.

Yup. In the minds of normies, flat affect = serial killer psycho.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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> Are we seriously arguing that Palantir are doing very much illegal analysis on air-gapped national security systems, and somehow exporting those and aggregating them? Is there any reason to think they would not do something illegal? Or that they would be above exporting secret data?

At the risk of stating the obvious, this is a very profitable company that has spent 20-ish years working with intelligence agencies from a bunch of different countries, I find it hard to believe they'd just casually commit some incredibly serious crime without evidence beyond "well, they theoretically could".

Don't be so naive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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People frequently misunderstand me for someone who is lacking emotions. I can't speak for Karp but I just experience and express them differently. He may be on the psychopathy spectrum. I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if people are misunderstanding him. Given you're making assumptions that he is on the psychopathy spectrum here, I will assume statistically that's unlikely and it's much more likely that peop…

> People frequently misunderstand me for someone who is lacking emotions. Yup. In the minds of normies, flat affect = serial killer psycho.

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Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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You shouldn’t assume trust will naturally just regrow. This may be it, we may have passed peak USA.

Hence the Carney strategy up here in Canada. We can realize in hindsight that we were far too dependent on a single ally. We're diversifying - and even if America wants to become reliable again we've learned and will (hopefully) never be so dependent again. In the post WW2 era most western countries grew lazy about sovereignty due to America's open-handed approach - this has been a wake up call and has severely lower…

China is not going to defend Canadian interests, friend.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Why is it any of our business what this guy says in his free time if it's not advocating for violence?

Calling people "harbingers of the antichrist" is tantamount to advocating violence, not to mention slander.

If it's not advocating clear, specific and imminent violence (which this isn't) then it's free speech. You don't have to like it, in fact nobody is asking if you do.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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I'm not sure being a pseudointellectual (if that's what he is) would make him evil, would it? I've seen his 'antichrist' talk as part of headlines out of context and to be honest assumed that this is a rhetorical/hyperbolic device, rather than a literal thing. Is your claim that he actually literally thinks someone is the antichrist? So far he just seems to be someone with a bent against degrowthers? Is there a speci…

> would make him evil I should have been more clear, I am not asserting he is "evil", that is a caricature. Given his background, and where and how he grew up, the couching of his views through evangelical eyes is cynical. I am asserting that he is a dickhead, who believes he's playing 4d chess, whilst cultivating a band of people who you would describe as "odious" at best. Now some people might say "oh he's keeping…

I think it's more than fair to say that Thiel is an evil person. I mean evil is not like a fictional invention, 99.9% of your ancestors understood the capability of people to be evil. It's more like a 80s era "it's all just rational incentives man" thing to pretend that actions have no moral weight. He's a pro-monopolist anti-democracy ("I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible") billionaire who's busy constructing the surveillance state; it's pretty straightforward really.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Hence the Carney strategy up here in Canada. We can realize in hindsight that we were far too dependent on a single ally. We're diversifying - and even if America wants to become reliable again we've learned and will (hopefully) never be so dependent again. In the post WW2 era most western countries grew lazy about sovereignty due to America's open-handed approach - this has been a wake up call and has severely lower…

China is not going to defend Canadian interests, friend.

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