I'm just surprised people hadn't realized earlier that these SOCs were capable of more than Apple had let on. They're incredibly capable, but profits and capitalism are the problem as always.
Your phone is an entire computer
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Re: Your phone is an entire computer
#262For me this has two takeaways:
One, I avoid Apple products as they are locked down and overpriced
The other, that it's probably worthwhile to push for apple to open these products up more - especially would be nice if more old hardware could be "opened" to reuse and avoid them being e-waste
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#263I really don't understand the argument here. That the product is locked down by design is a feature, not a limitation. Yes, this has the side effect of making them more money and allowing a walled garden to form, but given that the vast majority of users wouldn't do anything different with their phones if a shell was present, this is in my opinion not that large of an effect. The snide around "clicking on links is da…
> Apple software. It's buggy, uses proprietary formats that you can't export
Buggy sure, but proprietary formats? Calendar entries can be imported or exported as iCalendar .ics (RFC 5545), contacts as vCard .vcf (RFC 6350), photos as .jpeg or .heif (ISO/IEC 23008-12), books use the open .epub (ISO/IEC TS 30135), iTunes dropped DRM for purchased files in 2016 and uses mp4 (ISO/IEC 14496-14:2020) (though not sure what Apple Music streaming uses). TextEdit uses .rtf (a closed Microsoft format), and Pages, Numbers, Keynote use their own formats (as other office software does), but they import and export to many common formats. Notes imports and exports markdown (and you can always print/export as pdf).
What are the "proprietary formats that you can't export"?
ETA: Oh, Messages, yeah. To export those, you have to copy/paste a conversation, or use a 3rd party app, fair enough.
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#264The argument here is valid, if I read this correctly. Why can’t Apple simply allow your iPhone SIMPLY be just a transportable PC, that you can connect a keyboard, mouse, and monitor and do anything else you can do with Echo or any Apple computer? [EDIT]Provided that some functionalities (the phone) be walled off for security.
Because they want to segment the market and sell you both?
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#265I don't understand why the author bought an iPhone. That's the deal - you do things Apple's way in exchange for not having to figure out how you'll do them. For most people this is a massive convenience, and that's why they pay so much for Apple products (and why I don't).
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know any iPhone with USB C you can just plug into a monitor right?
Is that true?
Yeah, I plugged mine into my tv a few weeks ago, using a USB-C dock, so I could play the new Katamari game on the 65" screen.
With a ps5 controller hooked up via bluetooth, it was just like having a console.
Re: Your phone is an entire computer
#267I really don't understand the argument here. That the product is locked down by design is a feature, not a limitation. Yes, this has the side effect of making them more money and allowing a walled garden to form, but given that the vast majority of users wouldn't do anything different with their phones if a shell was present, this is in my opinion not that large of an effect. The snide around "clicking on links is da…
> Apple software. It's buggy, uses proprietary formats that you can't export Buggy sure, but proprietary formats? Calendar entries can be imported or exported as iCalendar .ics (RFC 5545), contacts as vCard .vcf (RFC 6350), photos as .jpeg or .heif (ISO/IEC 23008-12), books use the open .epub (ISO/IEC TS 30135), iTunes dropped DRM for purchased files in 2016 and uses mp4 (ISO/IEC 14496-14:2020) (though not sure what…
iMessage lives as a sqlite db at ~/Library/Messages/chat.db , I wouldn't call a sqlite db proprietary per say.
Re: Your phone is an entire computer
#268I have a bit of experience with using a desktop OS on a smartphone. In fact, you can try it very easily yourself! I used TeamViewer.
Of course, it runs on a separate device, but it gives us an idea of what it would be like to have it there natively.
I used this to make some music in FL Studio on my phone. Well, on my laptop, which I had set up in the office. So I controlled it via my phone.
I feel like mobile versions of stuff is just gimped versions of the real thing. I would almost go so far as to say that I am more productive when using a desktop interface on a smartphone (than the smartphone equivalent of the same software), despite the ergonomic awkwardness.
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#269Only like 6-7 years ago, I spent working (so this is about commercial work, not play/free time) about 90% of the day on my macbook and 10% on my phone. Then I moved to 80% on my phone with xreal glasses, 10% without and 10% on my macbook. Now it's 90% on my phone without xreal and 10% with. For the same work. AI made that possible because my work (development) went from mostly typing and debugging to basically only reading code and mumbling prompts into my ear buds. I prefer this life a lot more. But this future is already there, also for iphone users although I don't really care: my driver is Android. I WOULD prefer Linux or an open android (my next phone will need Lineage or e/os or something as everything is moving the wrong direction).
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#270> Now that I know my iPhone has the capacity to run MacOS, I would very much like to do so. I’d love to consider the possibility of switching to a less intrusive phone and repurposing this iPhone into a web server. Perhaps that seems silly, but it’s really not. I’ve already paid for the device, it's clearly a full blown computer, and why should I not be able to modify it as I see fit? I kinda do that with Samsung DeX…
I also bought a flagship iphone with the idea that maybe someday it could be used for work (S25+), first of all I was disappointed that the Snapdragon chips don't actually support the new Android Terminal feature. Anyways there is Tmux, but if I wanted to do actual work, like with my stack: nodejs, docker container (with a postgres, a redis)... I am not sure it would work. Haven't done it so far but I'd be curious of…
> I was disappointed that the Snapdragon chips don't actually support the new Android Terminal feature
I’m out of the loop, why couldn’t a particular mobile CPU run a terminal?