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Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Perverse incentives strike again! Websites that allow links in user-generated content are spammed with user-generated spam links to improve SEO of spam sites, which hurts the site's own reputation because most of the links on it are spam. To avoid this, all sites use nofollow.

As this example shows, by all sites using nofollow, Github is improving the SEO of spam sites. What the fuck are you talking about?

GitHub doesn't care if spam sites have SEO, as long as GitHub isn't being penalized for linking to them.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Most registrars and hosts consider phishing already malicious, even if there's no obvious malware download or anything.

"Phishing" has a _very_ different meaning from "offer the option to sign up for a newsletter", let's not conflate the two.

The meaning registrars and hosts use is "looks like someone else's website"

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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In particular, if you license it MIT, and it's useful, expect Amazon to make a fork, not give you the source code, and each tens of millions of dollars from it while you don't get a cent. There's writing code for charity, and then there's this . Charity wasn't meant to include hyper-corporations.

If you want evil megacorps to give you money when they use your thing, maybe say "if you're an evil megacorp you have to give me money when you use my thing" in the license? If your license reads "hey, you can use this however you want, no matter who you are, and don't have to give me money", people will use it however they want, no matter who they are, and won't give you money. Unfortunately, for decades, free softw…

Exactly. (A)GPL tried to balance this, in ways that still partially work. MIT software just throws its hands up and donates itself to evil megacorps in anger. If you believe in charity for ordinary people but not for evil megacorps, you'll put something in the license that evil megacorps don't like, or that forces them to work for the benefit of everyone by releasing their work that builds on yours.

You can't write "Amazon may not use this" and still be free as in freedom, but terms that force sharing seem to work.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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If you want evil megacorps to give you money when they use your thing, maybe say "if you're an evil megacorp you have to give me money when you use my thing" in the license? If your license reads "hey, you can use this however you want, no matter who you are, and don't have to give me money", people will use it however they want, no matter who they are, and won't give you money. Unfortunately, for decades, free softw…

With the cloud, GPL won’t protect you either

AGPL partially works. Can you think of any better terms? SSPL was a flop.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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In particular, if you license it MIT, and it's useful, expect Amazon to make a fork, not give you the source code, and each tens of millions of dollars from it while you don't get a cent. There's writing code for charity, and then there's this . Charity wasn't meant to include hyper-corporations.

I don't understand your point? If you write code with an MIT license, this is what you would expect.

People are conditioned not to think about it.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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"Phishing" has a _very_ different meaning from "offer the option to sign up for a newsletter", let's not conflate the two.

The meaning registrars and hosts use is "looks like someone else's website"

Could be, but this doesn't. It has the same name and is _about_ the same thing, but it doesn't look like the other site.

Just because you have pocksuppet.org and I hack pocksuppet.net doesn't mean that one of us is phishing.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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As this example shows, by all sites using nofollow, Github is improving the SEO of spam sites. What the fuck are you talking about?

GitHub doesn't care if spam sites have SEO, as long as GitHub isn't being penalized for linking to them.

Why exactly do you think should GitHub be penalized?

Talk about perverse.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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If you want evil megacorps to give you money when they use your thing, maybe say "if you're an evil megacorp you have to give me money when you use my thing" in the license? If your license reads "hey, you can use this however you want, no matter who you are, and don't have to give me money", people will use it however they want, no matter who they are, and won't give you money. Unfortunately, for decades, free softw…

I agree that MIT may not be the best licence here in such a use case scenario. The question is why corporations think they can be leeches though - and the bigger, the more of a leech they are on the ecosystem. That's just not right.

Because the copyright owners give them explicit approval to leech by using those licenses.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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I pay for Kagi to get better search results. Lately, I’ve felt that Kagi’s search has been just as full of low-information and AI generated results as Google. I’ve been wondering why I’m still paying for it. This seemed like a good litmus test. Unfortunately, Kagi displays pretty much the same results as Google for nanoclaw.

Isn't Kagi basically just using a blocklist? In which case it's whack a mole as new sites spring up or bubble up to the top of other results. I keep my own blocklist and intermittently search key phrases to blanket block new sites, and there's often new sites popping up.
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