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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

layer8 wrote: post #161
r0fl wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It always surprises me that the mini was ~1% of sales and yet the pro mini comments get so many upvotes

It was 3-5%, if I remember the numbers correctly. There are rumors that the Air didn’t sell better.

I don't have any official numbers, but it sure seems like the Air is selling worse than the Plus which sold worse than the Mini.

(source: keeping an eye out on the NY subway, which I have found to be a pretty damned good gauge of consumer electronics popularity)

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by Telaneo »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #256
Telaneo wrote: post #248

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I'm sure they do it that way. I'm also not convinced there's any actual need to do it that way. You also didn't answer my question. Nothing in your travel scenario there, if I were in your shoes, would need me to use my phone for more than a few taps per actual task, while the rest of my phone use would go to mindless browsing or reading. What specific tasks are you imagining popping up here that I would then queue t…

Have you ever thought that the HNs crowd superiority complex above the “commoners” and unwashed masses may be unwarranted? And no I’m not a young guy - my first computer was in 1986 in 6th grade…

I'm not trying to say my way is superior. On the contrary, I'm asking what use cases you have that you are unable to solve. If you have a genuine need to send emails from your phone at a moment's notice, then I can't argue with that; if you can't wait to respond to the emails you receive, there's nothing else to really do about it. That's why I'm asking what needs you have. I'm trying to better understand your situation, trying to put myself in your shoes.

But if you have no desire to actually respond to my inquiry, I shall remain in the dark.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

quesera wrote: post #259
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #234

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Yes and even though you haven’t watched TV in 20 years ((c) Slashdot) people still watch TV. The feigned ignorance on HN that most normal people don’t pull their laptops out to do everything in 2026 is amazing

It's not feigned. I'm astonished to learn how hard people will work for the (seemingly to me) false convenience of doing things on their phone which would be (to me) much more straightforward to do on a more suitable device. So I tend to assume that these stories are often the outliers, and that my personal experience is more common. I recognize the fallacy, and I suspect we're both wrong and we're both right. I just…

So it’s not feigned ignorance…

Again, you can look at the worldwide penetration of cell phones vs laptops, where most web traffic comes from, the amount of resources spent on mobile development vs desktop, the amount of revenue globally of phone sales vs PC sales, etc

I also don’t spend all day working and I definitely don’t take out my laptop when I’m not working

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Telaneo wrote: post #262
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever thought that the HNs crowd superiority complex above the “commoners” and unwashed masses may be unwarranted? And no I’m not a young guy - my first computer was in 1986 in 6th grade…

I'm not trying to say my way is superior. On the contrary, I'm asking what use cases you have that you are unable to solve. If you have a genuine need to send emails from your phone at a moment's notice, then I can't argue with that; if you can't wait to respond to the emails you receive, there's nothing else to really do about it. That's why I'm asking what needs you have. I'm trying to better understand your situat…

Yes you will if you think most communication personally or even work related is happening via email…

You know sending email via mobile has been popular since 2003 right?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by dismalaf »

andrewmutz wrote: post #246
danielvaughn wrote: post #61

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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

Completely agree. And to make matters worse, I can't even switch to android without losing the ability to reliably send quality video to iPhone users. Apple suffered for decades from Microsoft's anticompetitive OS monopoly, and turned around and did the same thing to the android ecosystem. I have no idea why this sub is full of Apple fanboys. I was an Apple fan 10 years ago, but these days they no longer deserve your…

> the ability to reliably send quality video to iPhone users.

Just curious but why? Is it iMessage lock in?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by quesera »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #265
quesera wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not feigned. I'm astonished to learn how hard people will work for the (seemingly to me) false convenience of doing things on their phone which would be (to me) much more straightforward to do on a more suitable device. So I tend to assume that these stories are often the outliers, and that my personal experience is more common. I recognize the fallacy, and I suspect we're both wrong and we're both right. I just…

So it’s not feigned ignorance… Again, you can look at the worldwide penetration of cell phones vs laptops, where most web traffic comes from, the amount of resources spent on mobile development vs desktop, the amount of revenue globally of phone sales vs PC sales, etc I also don’t spend all day working and I definitely don’t take out my laptop when I’m not working

Worldwide is not relevant, and mobile-vs-desktop dev is not relevant.

Mobile-vs-web dev is probably a better metric. And developed, mature markets only. Anything else introduces the second- and third-generation tech gap inconsistencies.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by the_overseer »

higgins wrote: post #206

the only thing i search for on these announcements is phone width. bring back the mini

No. It doesn't sell. You so called mini buyers never showed up except in forums making a lot of pointless noise. If you understand anything about how businesses work you would understand how useless your comment is.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

quesera wrote: post #268
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it’s not feigned ignorance… Again, you can look at the worldwide penetration of cell phones vs laptops, where most web traffic comes from, the amount of resources spent on mobile development vs desktop, the amount of revenue globally of phone sales vs PC sales, etc I also don’t spend all day working and I definitely don’t take out my laptop when I’m not working

Worldwide is not relevant, and mobile-vs-desktop dev is not relevant. Mobile-vs-web dev is probably a better metric. And developed, mature markets only. Anything else introduces the second- and third-generation tech gap inconsistencies.

Yes Japan and S. Korea who led in mobile penetration for decades are poor countries..

Are you really arguing in 2026 about time spent on mobile vs PCs?

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