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The whole thing was a scam

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Re: The whole thing was a scam

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This https://x.com/UnderSecretaryF/status/2027594072811098230 is the simplest and most logical explanation as to what happened. The disagreement was over who would be the arbiter of "lawful usage" of the technology, the US government or Amodei.

You actually believe these people when they talk?

Re: The whole thing was a scam

#262

25M isn’t even that much money. Not only are they whores, they’re cheap whores.

We're still here mostly because these are the dollar store fascists. If they were really competent this would be the fourth reich already by now and all brown people would have been exterminated in concentration camps.

Have you ever considered that they’re not fascists at all, don’t have the goals that you’re claiming they have, and don’t hold any of the views you claim they have?

Re: The whole thing was a scam

#263

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When you say "HN", do you mean you? Who else was surprised? The place is full of people constantly commenting about how bad the US is, how corrupt the government is, how terrible CEOs (particularly Altman) are, late stage capitalism, etc., etc.

They've been around forever, even before Trump's first administration. But a broken clock is right twice a day. Those people also get down voted to oblivion. Their text is gray. I can't read it unless I click the timestamp. Clearly, HN doesn't want us to listen to them. Yes, sometimes they can be combative and inflammatory. But even the ones that are otherwise reasonable get down voted because how dare we insult capi…

In reality nothing you said is happening on HN. It’s the pro-US and pro-Trump comments that are downvoted and flagged to oblivion.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

#264
post #152

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We used to have laws like that, but apparently our supreme court believes that bribing politicians is political speech, and curtailing that speech is unconstitutional, so... It's so broken.

Are you aware that the Citizens United case was actually about a movie? It wasn't about handing someone a stack of cash. When I see perspectives like yours, I wonder what you would say is the right way to handle the question of whether someone can make a movie that portrays a candidate in a positive or negative light. It seems to be pretty clearly a matter of free speech (first amendment), so unless there's some othe…

The conversation included money-corrupted political speech vs. bribery.

The Citizen's United case being relevant to the former.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

#265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say "HN", do you mean you? Who else was surprised? The place is full of people constantly commenting about how bad the US is, how corrupt the government is, how terrible CEOs (particularly Altman) are, late stage capitalism, etc., etc.

I’m one of those criticasters and I’m getting downvoted constantly. I don’t care about the downvotes. I do care about western countries slipping into fascism just because people are so proud to admit they voted for a stupid clown.

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Re: The whole thing was a scam

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The oligarchic system is not only poisonous to economic growth but also incredibly hard to dislodge. Most of you are American and likely thinking that this is an aberration that will be rectified come next election cycle but I believe you are going to get disappointed. People who scaled the government buildings in a coup attempt are not going to give up power willingly. And now they have coerced your oligarchs to com…

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Re: The whole thing was a scam

#267
post #75

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. This HST quote seems severely outdated by now. They have already been caught, committed all the sins of stupidity and some more. All of it to the clapping mob of people who yearn for some kind of social revenge. And it’s happening everywhere these last years. Who could possibly know…

HST = Hunter S. Thompson, an American writer and journalist.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

#268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say "HN", do you mean you? Who else was surprised? The place is full of people constantly commenting about how bad the US is, how corrupt the government is, how terrible CEOs (particularly Altman) are, late stage capitalism, etc., etc.

They've been around forever, even before Trump's first administration. But a broken clock is right twice a day. Those people also get down voted to oblivion. Their text is gray. I can't read it unless I click the timestamp. Clearly, HN doesn't want us to listen to them. Yes, sometimes they can be combative and inflammatory. But even the ones that are otherwise reasonable get down voted because how dare we insult capi…

> They've been around forever

That is "HN". HN is the people who read and post here.

> Those people also get down voted to oblivion. Their text is gray. I can't read it unless I click the timestamp.

I'm sure some are but quite a few are not because I have been able to see them quite a lot without clicking.

> Yes, sometimes they can be combative and inflammatory. But even the ones that are otherwise reasonable get down voted because how dare we insult capitalism and billionaires?

I must say that I have never seen that happen, but I don't tend to trawl through a lot of hidden comments. There certainly seem to be some favored billionaires who might upset people to criticize here. Trump is obviously not among them.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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When you say "HN", do you mean you? Who else was surprised? The place is full of people constantly commenting about how bad the US is, how corrupt the government is, how terrible CEOs (particularly Altman) are, late stage capitalism, etc., etc.

You know those people have existed since practically forever, right? You learn to tune it out and then you never notice if they start being less wrong.

> You know those people have existed since practically forever, right?

Yes.

> You learn to tune it out and then you never notice if they start being less wrong.

Speak for yourself. I have not tuned them out, I notice them a lot.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

#270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say "HN", do you mean you? Who else was surprised? The place is full of people constantly commenting about how bad the US is, how corrupt the government is, how terrible CEOs (particularly Altman) are, late stage capitalism, etc., etc.

I’m one of those criticasters and I’m getting downvoted constantly. I don’t care about the downvotes. I do care about western countries slipping into fascism just because people are so proud to admit they voted for a stupid clown.

There are a lot of comments criticizing who do not get downvoted constantly. I know because I have read them.

You may criticize and you may get downvoted, but it may not be the case that you are being downvoted just because you criticize, and it is certainly not the case that all criticism gets downvoted.

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