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Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by derwiki »

aozgaa wrote: post #89
mikkupikku wrote: post #74

Normally I'd be quite cynical here and say few people will actually do this, but it's OpenAI and Anthropic is an arguably superior option anyway. I've only given money to Anthropic in the first place. Why have people been doing business with OpenAI? Is it better than Claude at something I'm not familiar with?

I personally am getting better results with codex recently. Claude ($20 plan) honestly comes across as a total ai slop turd of an app (unreliable, frequent incidents, burns through the token after 2-3 prompts that just clinfinite loop doing nothing). Codex will iterate much faster.

It’s all anecdata, but I heavily used Claude over the last two weeks and found it very reliable. My company pays for tokens and I haven’t noticed incidents.

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Post by otterley »

maplethorpe wrote: post #177

I really didn't expect OpenAI to do something as immoral as this, despite their history of stealing the world's data to create a public-facing deep-fake generation machine. I am shocked and appalled.

The stories I’ve been reading say that the DoW’s agreement with OpenAI contain the very same limitations as the agreement with Anthropic did. In other words, they pressured Anthropic to eliminate those restrictions, Anthropic declined, then they made a huge fuss calling them “a radical left, woke company,” put them on the supply-chain risk list, then went with OpenAI even though OpenAI isn’t changing anything either.

The whole story makes no sense to me. The DoW didn’t get what they wanted, and now Anthropic is tarred and feathered.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/trump-will-end-government-use-of...

“OpenAI Chief Executive Sam Altman said the company’s deal with the Defense Department includes those same prohibitions on mass surveillance and autonomous weapons, as well as technical safeguards to make sure the models behave as they should.”

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Post by Reagan_Ridley »

CompoundEyes wrote: post #238

Altman tweet: “Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement.” From that it reads like the administration quickly agreed to the terms Anthropic wanted with OpenAI instead.

Altman wanted to you to believe he got the same deal Amodei didn't, because he has the art of deal.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by dynm »

derwiki wrote: post #256
dynm wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. It's unusual and harmful to privacy to require a phone number.

I’m not disagreeing with you but I highly suggest getting something like a burner number. Google Voice and Twilio usually work for me, but sometimes they are flagged VOIP and blocked.

As you say, it's sort of a cat-and-mouse game, and I'd rather not play it. Fortunately, there are plenty of competitors that don't require a phone number.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by derwiki »

MinimalAction wrote: post #167

Quite offtopics: 1. For a site visited by millions, a header element (perhaps h2, h3, h4) followed by a paragraph has such less spacing, it looks weird and hard to read. 2. There is an interesting question at the end [0]: Can you reactivate my deleted account? I was quite interested because if the could, then they never really deleted the data. The page doesn't answer that question satisfactorily at all! [0]: https:/…

If you’re in California, the move is to file a CCPA Delete request. IANAL but it seems illegal to process that request and allow account to be resurrected.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by curt15 »

CompoundEyes wrote: post #238

Altman tweet: “Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement.” From that it reads like the administration quickly agreed to the terms Anthropic wanted with OpenAI instead.

That's what Altman tweeted. Did it actually happen?

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Post by Reagan_Ridley »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #77

I stopped paying OpenAI a long time ago. I get that actually deleting your OpenAI account hurts their ‘numbers’ and thus possibly their valuation. I choose another path: I use their tokens for free, hopefully helping them go out of business a little sooner. The irony is that until yesterday I felt more or less the same about Anthropic. Last night I paid for an Anthropic subscription I don’t need in order to both supp…

I deleted all my free accounts (turns out I have a few...)

Learnt from GOOG that nothing is free. I'm now paying for Claude

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by otterley »

The stories I’ve been reading say that the DoW’s agreement with OpenAI contain the very same limitations as the agreement with Anthropic did. In other words, they pressured Anthropic to eliminate those restrictions, Anthropic declined, then they made a huge fuss calling them “a radical left, woke company,” put them on the supply-chain risk list, then went with OpenAI even though OpenAI isn’t changing anything either.

The whole story makes no sense to me. The DoW didn’t get what they wanted, and now Anthropic is tarred and feathered.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/trump-will-end-government-use-of...

“OpenAI Chief Executive Sam Altman said the company’s deal with the Defense Department includes those same prohibitions on mass surveillance and autonomous weapons, as well as technical safeguards to make sure the models behave as they should.”

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by elefanten »

jLaForest wrote: post #188
bigDinosaur wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that not a line of principle? Principle doesn't mean where we'd all agree, nor does it mean what we'd deem acceptable, it just means there is a line somewhere - and mass surveillance or fully autonomous AI in the kill chain is a very clear principle.

It's unprincipled because the implication is that once claude improves enough to be trusted with autonomous killing the company will be ok with it.

But to gp's point, that is a principle. Perhaps not yours, but they outlined their stance and stuck to it despite threats and consequences.

Contrast Sam's OpenAI announcement which was very carefully worded to appear to uphold the same principles, but is currently being rightfully disassembled as retaining various potential outs that would allow violating the signaled principles.

Honest and staunch about clearly stated principles is better than wiggly and dishonest about weasel-worded impressions of a principle.

And all of that is orthogonal to whether you (or anyone) agrees with a given principle or given revealed behavior.

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