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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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While I have no love for the Iranian regime I fear this will end up like the 'liberation' of Iraq: A massive power vacuum in an unstable Islamic regime. What even is the plan here if the air assault fails? Boots on the ground? In Iran?

The place has 90 million people, how do you even deal with this without throwing the whole place into chaos? Besides, after this the collective west has no moral high-ground anymore, the global south will resent us more than ever. If other countries go to aggressive wars, our condemnation is worthless. Trump is completely compromised and it was probably the powers that be who told them that this is how it is going to…

There is no such thing as the "global south" other than in the minds of westerners and westernised elites (and elites are getting less westernised). From a western viewpoint you can lump the rest of the world together, but it makes no sense from any other view point.

As for moral high ground. Compared to whom? China? Russia? Myanmar?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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While I have no love for the Iranian regime I fear this will end up like the 'liberation' of Iraq: A massive power vacuum in an unstable Islamic regime. What even is the plan here if the air assault fails? Boots on the ground? In Iran?

Iraq was not an Islamic regime in the same sense. It was not a theocracy. There were non Muslims in senior political positions. The Iraqi government was a lot more stable. What exactly do you imagine will replace the Iranian government that is worse?

Was ISIS better or worse than Iran's government is now?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

#266

At this point, no country in the world will ever again 'make a deal' with the US, because while pretending to negotiate with you they try to ram a knife into your back.

I'm pretty sure US higher-ups have been publicly describing Iran regime change as a todo-list item for a while now...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

#267

I can't help but think that all this shit is because Netanyahu really wants to put off more court hearings on his lame ass corruption charges. I really can't wait for him and his cronies (in Israel, and the West) to be brought to justice. Without having to wait for the history books to do their thing.

His court appearance are continuing as scheduled, twice a week, for the last year. except for some specific incidents where he had to leave of cancel due to running a state.

No matter what you think, there is no way for him to avoid these hearings

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

#268

Iran is a lesson to all: as soon as Israel or the US take a disliking to you you have to rush for nuclear weapons. Iran has been the grown up in the room for well over a decade at this stage and it didn't matter one bit. You cannot appease Israel or the US because that don't want to be appeased, they want to bomb Iran into a lawless wasteland. They could have switched to a secular liberal democracy and it'd make no d…

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

#269

While I have no love for the Iranian regime I fear this will end up like the 'liberation' of Iraq: A massive power vacuum in an unstable Islamic regime. What even is the plan here if the air assault fails? Boots on the ground? In Iran?

Your description of what happened in Iraq was exactly the point of why we invaded. Iraq and Iran were the two biggest threats to Israel, we got rid of Iraq and now we are removing the only other rival to Israel remaining in the Middle East.

After this, Israel, being the only nuclear power in the region and having massive funding from the American taxpayer, will dominate the entire region. This has always been the goal.

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