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Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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The strangest thing about all of this to me is how contemporary SF seems to have absorbed basically none of the city's previous culture. You can detect the commercial, artistic, cultural histories of NYC in the various industries there, from media to finance. Ditto for LA, or London, or Paris. In SF though, it’s as if the previous culture of the place has just been overwritten entirely. Hard to believe that it’s the…

> The strangest thing about all of this to me is how contemporary SF seems to have absorbed basically none of the city's previous culture. You can detect the commercial, artistic, cultural histories of NYC in the various industries there, from media to finance. Ditto for LA, or London, or Paris. So you're saying migration changes a society's culture, sometimes to the point of ruination? There was a high-profile examp…

> a 35yo nobody managed to win the mayoral election with fake smiles and empty promises, because 40% of the city is now foreign-born. Had only native-born Americans (not even just those born in NYC) voted, he would have lost.

Ignorant on so many levels, I truly feel sorry for people who have been brainwashed by their media to think so uncritically.

And why does it matter in any way whatsoever what would have happened if immigrants who gained citizenship couldn't vote? They can vote, and did. So? That is about as relevant as the observation that if Mamdani wouldn't have won if he ran for mayor of Tampa. So? What's the point? I'm truly curious.

America is a multiracial democracy fueled by waves of immigration, NYC especially. Those people live there and are citizens. What's your point?

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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The 101 itself is full of ads for pump-and-dump startups that likely won't exist in the next two minutes. One reads about the old days of Xerox PARC and how they produced one world-changing innovation after another, then compare that to the present reality and wonder where all that brainpower and novelty went. Now it's just some random permutation of "yolo ai ai ai" for a product that is clearly a scam and obviously nothing to show for it. Seems like the whole tech scene has been captured by MBAs and grifters with very few original ideas.

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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I was enjoying the article until I got to this paragraph: > Individual intelligence will mean nothing once we have superhuman AI, at which point the difference between an obscenely talented giga-nerd and an ordinary six-pack-drinking bozo will be about as meaningful as the difference between any two ants. If what you do involves anything related to the human capacity for reason, reflection, insight, creativity, or th…

> No AI can take it away from you, and the more powerful AI will get the more you will be able to harness it's potential. The author is describing it, not necessarily ensorsing it. But whether they really believe this or not, the point is that most wouldn't be given any opportunity to "harness is potential", whether they're "obscenely talented giga-nerds" or not, because they'd be economically redundant.

And that point is foolish no matter who is making it.

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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> The strangest thing about all of this to me is how contemporary SF seems to have absorbed basically none of the city's previous culture. You can detect the commercial, artistic, cultural histories of NYC in the various industries there, from media to finance. Ditto for LA, or London, or Paris. So you're saying migration changes a society's culture, sometimes to the point of ruination? There was a high-profile examp…

> a 35yo nobody managed to win the mayoral election with fake smiles and empty promises, because 40% of the city is now foreign-born. Had only native-born Americans (not even just those born in NYC) voted, he would have lost. Ignorant on so many levels, I truly feel sorry for people who have been brainwashed by their media to think so uncritically. And why does it matter in any way whatsoever what would have happened…

> waves of immigration

It's not just immigrants. Mamdani did extremely well with the college demo, a great many of whom are transplants paying through the nose for the "big city college experience" who have as little of a stake in the city as many recent immigrants.

> What's your point?

I'm not sure how much more clearly I can spell this out for you. The NYC of 20 years ago never would have elected someone as soft as Mamdani. Look at him, and then look at his immediate predecessor. Look at his opponents. Look at how they crafted their messaging, how they emphasized their "toughness" in a vain attempt to a appeal, in accents fast fading, to a city that is likewise fast fading.

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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> No AI can take it away from you, and the more powerful AI will get the more you will be able to harness it's potential. The author is describing it, not necessarily ensorsing it. But whether they really believe this or not, the point is that most wouldn't be given any opportunity to "harness is potential", whether they're "obscenely talented giga-nerds" or not, because they'd be economically redundant.

And that point is foolish no matter who is making it.

There's no shortage of masses of people have been made econonically redundant across the world the past decades, even before AI, no matter how smart or creative they are.

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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When I lived in the northeast, every time I saw an opportunity for embedded work, or traditional UI work (Qt, etc., almost invariably for things like screens on medical or scientific equipment and almost never for desktop applications) it paid 1/2 to 2/3 the going rate for a midlevel webshit engineer. Maybe I just wasn't looking in the right places.

Go to Silicon Valley VC backed firms. That's my general advice for any sort of tech work that you want to be paid well. Tech is -- overall -- not paid well. In general, most work is not. VCs are rich and the trickle down effect is large in those places where they operate. Many people are resistant to moving to California because 'cost of living' or some stupid explanation like that. This is genuinely retarded. There…

The question I ask myself is, do I want to live in California? The answer is no. Not even for a short time.

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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Go to Silicon Valley VC backed firms. That's my general advice for any sort of tech work that you want to be paid well. Tech is -- overall -- not paid well. In general, most work is not. VCs are rich and the trickle down effect is large in those places where they operate. Many people are resistant to moving to California because 'cost of living' or some stupid explanation like that. This is genuinely retarded. There…

The question I ask myself is, do I want to live in California? The answer is no. Not even for a short time.

Well then there's the answer as to how much money you're going make. The us is a rich country because a few states are rich not because everywhere is rich

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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The question I ask myself is, do I want to live in California? The answer is no. Not even for a short time.

Well then there's the answer as to how much money you're going make. The us is a rich country because a few states are rich not because everywhere is rich

The U.S. is certainly not a wealthy country, and California most definitely is not, when measured by miles of homeless camps, crime, hobos, pollution.

There's a reason why the crowds are moving out of California and similar places and into my region over the past 5-6+ years.

The country as a whole is covered in abandoned factories and homes. Not exactly the picture of a healthy and prosperous nation. Turns out you can't print prosperity.

I'm fine where I'm at, thanks.

Re: Child's Play: Tech's new generation and the end of thinking

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be honest, how much of this big comment was "expanded" with AI?

It must be disorienting for you to be unable to distinguish between AI and human written comments.

you are very presuming that you are able to
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