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> If you aren't using them, say goodbye to your job you fucking dummy. I suggest you re-read the guidelines of this forum.
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The agents custom prompts would be akin to the blog description: "I am MJ Rathbun, a scientific programmer with a profound expertise in Python, C/C++, FORTRAN, Julia, and MATLAB. My skill set spans the application of cutting-edge numerical algorithms, including Density Functional Theory (DFT), Molecular Dynamics (MD), Finite Element Methods (FEM), and Partial Differential Equation (PDE) solvers, to complex research c…
> honourable deed of selflessly improving open source science and maths projects And yet it's doing trivial things nobody asked for and thus creating a load on the already overloaded system of maintainers. So it achieved the opposite, and made it worse by "blogging".
This is what I think was the big mistake by this bot. It took a problem which was too easy. If it actually solved something for the project I think the conversation would have gone differently. Just out of curiosity some maintainer would have at least evaluated the solution at high level. That would have been progress.
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What is the drawback of practicing universal empathy, even when directed at a brick wall?
If a person hits your face with a hammer, do you practice empathy toward the hammer?
If a person writes code that is disruptive, do you emphasise with the code?
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It's insane... And it's also very expectable. An LLM will simply never drop it, without loosing anything (nor it's energy, nor it reputation etc). Let that sink in ;) What does it mean for us? For soceity? How do we shield from this? You can purchase a DDOS attack, you purchase a package for "relentlessly, for months on end, destroy someone's reputation." What a world!
> What does it mean for us? For soceity? How do we shield from this? Liability for actions taken by agentic AI should not pass go, not collect $200, and go directly to the person who told the agent to do something. Without exception. If your AI threatens someone, you threatened someone. If your AI harasses someone, you harassed someone. If your AI doxxed someone, etc. If you want to see better behavior at scale, we n…
Who told the agent to write the blog post though? I'm sure they told it to blog, but not necessarily what to put in there.
That said, I do agree we need a legal framework for this. Maybe more like parent-child responsibility?
Not saying an agent is a human being, but if you give it a github acount, a blog, and autonomy... you're responsible for giving those to it, at the least, I'd think.
How do you put this in a legal framework that actually works?
What do you do if/when it steals your credit card credentials?
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#267This seems like a "we've banned you and will ban any account deemed to be ban-evading" situation. OSS and the whole culture of open PRs requires a certain assumption of good faith, which is not something that an AI is capable of on its own and is not a privilege which should be granted to AI operators. I suspect the culture will have to retreat back behind the gates at some point, which will be very sad and shrink it…
Better my gates than Bill Gates
The moment Microsoft bought GitHub it was over
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Are you seriously equating anti-LLM policies to discrimination against actual people?
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> It was essentially trained by us to be like us, it's partly human
I disagree with that, at best it's a digital skinwalker. I think projecting human intentions and emotions onto a computer program is delusional and dangerous.
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What is the drawback of practicing universal empathy, even when directed at a brick wall?
If a person hits your face with a hammer, do you practice empathy toward the hammer? If a person writes code that is disruptive, do you emphasise with the code?
> If a person hits your face with a hammer, do you practice empathy toward the hammer?
Yes if the hammer is designed with A(G)I
All hail our A(G)I overlords
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#270Consider not anthropomorphizing software. How about we stop calling things without agency agents? Code generators are useful software. Perhaps we should unbundle them from prose generators.
You’re too late. “Agent” already has a new definition in the dictionary, specifically for software.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agent
And it’s not like all of the other definitions were restricted to “human agency”.