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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by opan »

kaon_2 wrote: post #226

Not to take away from the seriousness of the moment, but I feel compelled to share my feeling shere: My inner teenager was hoping to see TeamSpeak and Ventrilo listed just to honor the good old days. Between 2005-2008 it felt as if Ventrilo had about 90% of the market, with TeamSpeak having the rest. I guess the hopeful message is that nothing lasts forever and alternatives come and go.

Mumble is similarly old (3 or 4 years newer), and free software unlike the other two (the trick to longevity). Still around and updated. I used it just a couple days ago.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by Moomoomoo309 »

I'm quite surprised to not see teamspeak 6 on here. From what I've seen, it has all the features discord has now, including screen sharing, video calls, channels like discord, and it's also designed for gamers. It's been mentioned in some replies, but not any top-level comments yet. Is TS6 missing some discord features? (maybe calendar events, and their bot ecosystem is a lot smaller)

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by opan »

dahrkael wrote: post #40
vaylian wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your greatest UX concern that you would like to see fixed?

when coming back to a community after a long period of time i have to follow a trail of links to rooms that say they have been upgraded and the current one abandoned until i reach the current one. thats stupid, confusing and time wasting

It is up to the room admin to upgrade or not, I still have some v1 rooms. Some features like knocking require a newer version, though.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by opan »

SkiFire13 wrote: post #22
cbdumas wrote: post #15

I know I'm in the small minority of Discord users who mostly uses it as a voice chat room while gaming with my friends, but for that use case the best alternative I've found seems to be Mumble. I recently set up a Mumble server on my home server and it seems great so far, was able to get my friends connected pretty easily. We'll see how the voice quality and latency compare to Discord.

> I recently set up a Mumble server on my home server That makes you an even smaller minority unfortunately. Most people are not going to set up a home server.

It's semantics, really. Run the server executable on any computer in your house. Done. If you don't leave your computer on 24/7, the Mumble server isn't up 24/7. Oh well. If you use it to talk to friends, you'll presumably have your computer on when you want to use it yourself anyway.

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Post by dzaima »

trinix912 wrote: post #199
direwolf20 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More friction!

Is it really though? The average user doesn't need to know about all other clients, how it all works, etc. They just "open this website, register, and you're in!" It's not like the registration process necessarily involves typing in the server IP and port number, picking and setting up an advanced TUI client or something else.

It's beneficial for the average user to know that other clients exist at the very least; it's rather common in the matrix space I'm in that someone asks "how do I do X" without clarifying which client they use, and as such the question is unanswerable (or, worse, someone may answer with info about a different client; or they use some client that noone else does and as such noone can help them).

As some specific example, it's happened a couple times that someone's using a client that doesn't support rendering spoilers as spoilered, and as such they made unspoilered replies of something that should've been spoilered (and of course many clients (incl. the Elements) don't even have a sane way to type spoilers).

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by opan »

alt187 wrote: post #185
coretx wrote: post #143

IRC is the only alternative that runs on random potatos and survives lawfare.

One has still yet to convince me of anything IRC has over XMPP.

Waaaaaaay better clients (this is the big one), chat logs that are easier to search through with standard unix tools, avoids issues with OMEMO breaking (which stops people chatting at all, breaking the main usage of the program). Saying this as a regular user of both. I spend way more time on IRC and I enjoy irssi much more than Gajim, Dino, or Conversations. I do think XMPP has potential, though.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by m4rtink »

cl3misch wrote: post #208
m4rtink wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You check the mailing list archives - those usually have a web based interface.

Admittedly I was being facetious: OP said mailing lists are better than a forum, but for searching the archive you need a forum-like interface anyway.

Its a bit easier as it can be read-only & static generated. Though there are some attempts to make it possible to reply using the Web interface, like HyperKitty /Mailman 3.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by warmedcookie »

stryan wrote: post #11
warmedcookie wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if Valve filled in the gaps here. They already got a lot of community features built into Steam.

Steam Group Chats are sort of there; no video chat but text chats and drop-in voice chats like Discord. On the other hand they're basically ephemeral, with messages disappearing from history at some given point. I also can't figure out a way to access them outside of the Steam client and in DOTA where I believe they're tied to the in-game guild system.

Outside of Dota, it's called "Group Chats" (below your friends list) and it looks very similar to a basic Discord interface. You may have to join a dota guild in order to see it, although everyone in my guild just uses discord.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by opan »

thefz wrote: post #23

There is zero chance that the target users for Discord is going to try anything more complicated than Discord, so basically all the entries in this list. I recoil in horror thinking about me explaining Matrix even to the most tech savvy friends I use Discord with and I really really hope people would stop recommending it.

Something I noticed recently is that explaining Matrix to someone is offputting, but I got my dad to just use it and it seems fine for him. Maybe they don't need to know how it works. You start talking federation and stuff and people's eyes glaze over. Simple instructions to sign up and get a desktop and mobile client are probably a better idea. Bury the technical info for those who really care.
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