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The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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post #6

> If only Bill Gates and Larry Summers had had my mom to go to for advice, they could’ve saved themselves a lot of grief. Doubt it would have changed anything for Bill. There's a pattern there and this is just a piece of that pattern.

There's a comment exchange on the blog:

Peter Says: You think Bill Gates or Larry Summers would have listened to your Mom’s advice?

Scott Says: Peter #1: If she was their mom, maybe they would!

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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> For whatever reason, I forwarded this email to my parents, brother, and then-fiancee Dana. A very strange action to take for someone who claims to have no recollection of the meeting.

I don't know for sure, but from his CV, I'd guess I am similar in age to the author. He described remembering the venue (possibly separately to it being the meeting's venue) but not the meeting itself. I would have similar selective memories of business events from 10-15 years ago, amongst years of many meetings and opportunities. Sometimes I have a strong memory of one aspect, but no recollection at all of another. And I can identify with finding that email phrasing (about someone's "situation") being something that might prompt me to send it to people close to me as a sort of "look what happened to me today" thing.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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While I understand that once one attains those short of connections, certain intelligence agencies will reach out offering lucrative opportunities for your co-operation. Disgusting nature aside, I can't help but be amazed as to how someone can be so well connected. What sort of skills did Epstein have that managed to have so many people on speed dial? How do you get in a position to correspond with presidents, royals…

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It's at a minimum extremely ignorant to believe or pretent that this begins and end at "Mossad" being a magical shady force that controls the world. Looking for tight little narrative misses the complexity of human sociery.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is absolutely correct, hence why limited terms are a prerequisite for functioning democracies. An ill intentioned participant in power will not have unlimited time to do that much damage. A good intentioned participant will not have too much time to become corrupted. The downside is that a good intentioned ruler, may not have enough time to accomplish their good vision. But my thesis is that is a reasonable price…

> A good intentioned participant will not have too much time to become corrupted. The operation of the revolving door would seem to imply otherwise. You set up a situation where politicians are not just expected but required to leave office and then need a job in the private sector. Are they then inclined to do things while in office that make it more or less likely that they get a lucrative gig as soon as their term…

Campaign finance is another piece of the puzzle to avoid revolving doors. Cutting it slows down the initial introduction phase.

Group A invests millions of dollars into your campaign.

You go into politics in a debt to Group A that you feel obligated to repay.

You give favorable treatment to Group A in your political career.

Group A provides a lucrative contract to you after you leave politics so that they have a good reputation with the other politicians they finance.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Since it's ultimately about morals, maybe it is time to reread CS Lewis' "The Inner Ring" from 1944[0,1]. It's about the same kind of choices but in situations which are much harder to extricate oneself from than just a random sleazeball messaging you out of the blue.

[0] Link: https://www.lewissociety.org/innerring/

[1] HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38696764

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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> If only Bill Gates and Larry Summers had had my mom to go to for advice, they could’ve saved themselves a lot of grief. The actual lesson is not "listen to your mom", but "character matters". It doesn't matter how much someone agrees with you, how smart they are, how rich they are, how many great ideas they have etc etc. A rotten character will eventually rot everything around it. Techines/nerds/geeks get so enamou…

The implied lesson is that moms impart character.

Bill Gates's mother was self-dealing up nepo baby business contracts while Scott's Mom was warning him away from bad people.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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> For whatever reason, I forwarded this email to my parents, brother, and then-fiancee Dana. A very strange action to take for someone who claims to have no recollection of the meeting.

Depends upon how tight knit is the family, yes, it seems strange for me as well. Members in some families are unusually friendly. My family won't even trust me hosting them an Immich library.

The Anna Karenina Principle: "All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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post #248

Sometimes (sometimes) it just implies that someone sent an email, got ignored, and left a paper trail behind

Just being named in the files doesn’t mean you are guilty. In this situation being named in the files gave him an opportunity to demonstrate high moral character. “I turned down his money because he was scummy”

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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While I understand that once one attains those short of connections, certain intelligence agencies will reach out offering lucrative opportunities for your co-operation. Disgusting nature aside, I can't help but be amazed as to how someone can be so well connected. What sort of skills did Epstein have that managed to have so many people on speed dial? How do you get in a position to correspond with presidents, royals…

Being omniconnected was his job, if you think he was being managed, and his business, to the extent he was freelancing and trading on his own account.

How do you become omniconnected? You offer people a good time. How do you have repeat customers? You offer them a too good time. Why the disgusting acts? Because mere sex isn't scandalous enough.

Sometimes you do it because you've been commissioned to do it to a specific person. Sometimes you do it on spec because you think you can sell it. There is no one goal or ideology or theme to it other than it's gotta be nasty enough to blackmail a target.

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