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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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No, im not implying that all refugees are terrorists. Just pointing out the obvious outcome of terror: people flee to savety. There are still terror orgs seeking to destabilize the region, like israel or ISIS. Besides the destruction, thats at least one reason why you wouldnt want to go back. But why can they stay? Maybe a familiy -- a life -- is a reason to stay too. Why is "why dont they go back" your initial react…

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How many face military conflict?

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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This is why you must block all ads always. No exceptions.

I've argued for a long time that adblocking isn't just a quality of life thing, it's an essential security control for browsing the Internet in the same way that patching your system and running malware protection is. I didn't expect it to be protecting your physical security quite so soon.. This sort of thing should also help put the "adblocking is unethical" argument to bed.

OS security was in the previous step:

> Intellexa also uses malicious ads on third-party platforms to fingerprint visitors and redirect those who match its target profiles to its exploit delivery servers.

-- https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2025/12/leaks-show-in...

Not blocking ads is bordering a self-destructive behaviour now.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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> you support what’s happening. I don’t know that things are that black and white. Do you feel the same about the billions of consumers who buy and use the products these companies make?

There are degrees of culpability in any discussion. Generally, this is approximated by how much damage you individually are doing to your society compared to the alternative. You have to consume a lot of a company's products before your impact is comparable to working for them.

Exactly. If you have regular meetings on how to best progress development of the torment nexus, then you can't claim innocence just because you aren't the one deploying the torment nexus for torment-purposes.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Is it though? Or is it attacking and killing American citizens in the street, trafficking legal residents to the notorious prisons, starving and killing the captured in the concentration camps.

Not sure how much of the heavy lifting is your "if" and the qualifier does, but I hope it's just sarcasm.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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But it's only Nazis if you disagree with them. After all, the whole point of drawing the comparison is to shut down any possibility for discussion and nuance - "people I don't like are just like the nazis so I don't need to treat those who who doesn't fully oppose them with any respect".

The ones who are exterminating a race are the nazis

Which race?

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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German here, with little stakes in your shitshow. At no point during the obama years did I think: "Wow this looks just like the rise of the nazis!" Which was covered extensively during my history classes. Why did you even have all the school schootings if you don't use that stupid second ammendmend thing you have? This is the tyranical government you've all been waiting for.

Perhaps "what you thought then and now" is the difference between those times more than "what happened then and now". With the former being largely influenced by "what your bubble told you then and now".

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Does that law allow killing them by shooting? I suppose that officers need to detain them, read their rights, and put them in court. That’s what I thought was the core of the American Law.

If the officers involved had could reasonably believe that they posed an immediate lethal threat at the time, yes it does. Whether or not that was the case is for courts to figure out after things calm down and all facts have been gathered and not a valid reason to call for the shut down of entire agencies with the intent of stopping enforcement of laws you don't like.

Is the immediate lethal threat in the room with us right now? I hope no one ever accidentally believes you're an immediate lethal threat simply for existing, or at least if they do, maybe you'll be lucky enough to not have yuppies on the internet trying to defend your murder.

Can the officers in any of these incidents even articulate a threat, and how the only remedy was to shoot through the driver side window, or in the back of the head?

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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If you are German, then you are probably blind to the similarities between current German politics and the Nazis, so this is not a good point of comparison.

But it's only Nazis if you disagree with them. After all, the whole point of drawing the comparison is to shut down any possibility for discussion and nuance - "people I don't like are just like the nazis so I don't need to treat those who who doesn't fully oppose them with any respect".

Again, I have little stakes in your shitshow besides the international meddling they do with our own faschist party.

This dualist thinking seems to be a particular US thing, based on your two party system.

I see the erosion of the rule of law and decency in the US, the persecution of minorities, the populism, the defamation of journalism as "lügenpresse" and alignment of media to the party line, the personal police force (what the fuck is ICE doing in Italy), the person cult around a single madman, the violence without consequence, the fancy SS/SA style cosplay uniform by the head of ICE, and I think "that looks a lot like the stuff we learned about in school".

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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ICE is a law enforcement agency and so intentionally seeking to obstruct an investigation is indeed a crime. Impairing the access to data opens the door to fraud and other charges. And the manual linked goes above and beyond these relatively 'soft' crimes and into things like arson. Betting your life, and career, on these sort of things testament to how radicalized some have become.

How is this obstruction? Unless it's part of a proper investigation, they are just another private individual. You are free to do or not engage in business contracts with them, and any data given true or false or data not gievn can hardly be a criminal matter as its not an investigation and simply a business dealing between two parties.

A company is absolutely free to choose whether or not to do business with them, but an employee acting to try to undermine them as a customer or their relationship with the business is what would open the door to all these sort of laws and consequences, especially when that relationship is precisely in the furtherance of a law enforcement purposes, and the interference was motivated by an effort to impair that enforcement.

Stuff like actively expressing opposition to taking them on as a customer, trying to persuade management to do otherwise, and so on would all be perfectly kosher. But the stuff the top post in this thread alludes to, let alone what it links to, is how you end up in prison for a very long time after the 'I didn't know it was illegal' defense fails.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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You believe jobs are being taken and handed to deserving illegal immigrants because they have a better work ethic. I believe they are because investors are seeking ever greater returns no matter the cost to other others or even the long term sustainability of those very returns. This is the basis of our different positions.

If you believe investors are ruining the country, why do you want to deport millions of immigrants instead of investors?

Because the rules of this land are the end result of waves of developments, over millennia, hard won through the observation of the cause and effect of policy on societies. I trust the effectiveness of American law on the basis of the success of the American Experiment. This very success is the draw that led me to leave my homeland and family and come here. So I'll go with American Law and legal system, rather than follow some reactionary duct-taped law some guy commenting on the internet says we should do.
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