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Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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It's the branding. When the button that explored the internet said "internet explorer" it was so obvious. Then every OS component had to become its own brand. Why can't it just be called "internet"?

I'm sure soon enough it'll be renamed "Copilot 365 Explorer" or something similar.

That seems far too clear, I'd bet more on "Copilot Online".

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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Microsoft's fumble here is pretty spectacular. Back in early 2023, the state of google search was abysmal (despite that their leaders insisted it wasn't, it had become nearly unusable for me and I don't think was that unfounded of an opinion). Microsoft rolled out a new version of bing, which became bing chat - search worked for me again for a very brief window of time. They could have pounced on this opportunity to…

Nadella himself wrote:

"2026 will be a pivotal year for AI. [...] We have moved past the initial phase of discovery and are entering a phase of widespread diffusion. We are beginning to distinguish between “spectacle” and “substance”."

Customers are not buying the spectacle and investors are wondering why there is no substance.

[1] _ https://snscratchpad.com/posts/looking-ahead-2026/

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I'm always puzzled by such a claim. One can look at Facebook to see the comments people put up tied to their real name and find no shortage of utterly abhorrent comments. Not sure why there's such a pervasive memory-holing of this when people talk of wanting to tie the ability to comment publicly to peoples' identities.

Comments in Facebook may not be perfect, but they are vastly better than youtube comments. This is a false equivalence.

I've personally seen WAY more abusive and hateful comments on Facebook, from real accounts of real people, with pictures and friends and everything, than I have ever seen on YouTube. This may be very locale dependent, but in my country (Romania, which has a pretty large proportion of people online from very socially conservative backgrounds) you can easily find extremely explicitly misoginistic, racist, homophobic, and just plain hateful comments coming from real FB and Instagram accounts, again, from people using their real names and faces and everything. I've seen far fewer similar comments on YouTube videos, even ones from the same country.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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> "The biggest issue I see is Microsoft's entire mentality around AI adoption that focuses more on "getting the numbers up" then actually delivering a product people want to use." That succinctly describes 90% of the economy right now if you just change a word and remove a couple: The biggest issue I see is the entire mentality that focuses more on "getting the numbers up" than actually delivering a product people wa…

KPI infection. You see projects whose goal is, say "repos with A I code review turned on" vs "Code review suggestions that were accepted". And then if you do get adoption (like, say, a Claude Code trial), then VPs balk about price. If it's actually expensive now it's because they are actually using it all the time! The same kind of logic that led companies to migrate from Slack to Teams. Metrics that don't actually l…

My phone, laptop, TV, fridge, etc., all demonstrably worse than they were 5 years ago.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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> Why can't it just be called "internet"? Because the world wide web is just one of the many applications that is possible to implement on the internet infrastructure.

They were asking about "internet" versus "internet explorer", so that's not relevant.

The Internet Explorer is not for exploring the internet, but the world wide web, so the name never did make sense.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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I am building Agents for a long while now. The problem with Copilot is that it gets in the way too many times without being useful. Examples: When I open an email with 3 short lines of text, why do I need a "summary by copilot" button? When I open a meeting invote from someone else the first 1/3rd of the screen is occupied with "Prepare for your meeting" nonsense. The "insights" button just provides general knowledge…

Absolutely. And trying to be invasive by adding Copilot buttons everywhere. It's reminiscent of "free toolbar" adware.

Solution: Add MCP to MS applications, then isolate Copilot to its own app.

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> at some point will probably revolutionize a lot of things we do The revolution already happened. I can't imagine life without AI today. Not just for coding (which I actually lament) but just in general day to day use. Sure it's not perfect but I think it's quite difficult to ignore how the world changed in just 3-4 years.

That's just so strange to me. In my experience, it hallucinates and makes things up often, and when it's accurate, the results are so generic and surface level.

Yes but I use it as a substitute friend, gf, therapist, dumb questions like "how 2 buy clothes and dress good and is this good and how to unclog my toilet shits"

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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I think it comes down to..not every product in the world is improved by AI. but shareholders believe they all should be. So its crammed into all of them, instead of the few that would really benefit.

The AI background remover in the windows image viewer is really helpful. Many things I used to use an online tool or photoshop for now happens easily within the image viewer.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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I am building Agents for a long while now. The problem with Copilot is that it gets in the way too many times without being useful. Examples: When I open an email with 3 short lines of text, why do I need a "summary by copilot" button? When I open a meeting invote from someone else the first 1/3rd of the screen is occupied with "Prepare for your meeting" nonsense. The "insights" button just provides general knowledge…

Absolutely. And trying to be invasive by adding Copilot buttons everywhere. It's reminiscent of "free toolbar" adware. Solution: Add MCP to MS applications, then isolate Copilot to its own app.

Make MCP as pervasive as OLE Automation once was

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I believe it was only a year or two ago that a study showed PC gaming surpassed all consoles combined by a small amount by MaU

If we are going by the numbers, then casual gaming on mobile phones and tablets is even higher. > Mobile gaming generated USD 140.53 billion in 2025, accounting for 48.50% of the video game market share. Console revenue followed at USD 56.2 billion, slightly ahead of PC’s USD 46.3 billion. Cloud-gaming services are the fastest-rising category; the segment’s video game market size is projected to reach USD 24.68 billi…

while I agree there probably are more users on mobile (which notably is not a console), market size is not the same thing as number of people.
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