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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by hbn »

vee-kay wrote: post #196

This reminds me of a useful tool I encountered recently.. Winslop is an open source tool that removes Windows 11 bloatware, disables AI features like Copilot, and restores useful settings: https://github.com/builtbybel/Winslop

I'm terrified to use any of these Windows debloaters or do anything that gets me too far away from the default intended way of how Microsoft wants a Windows install to be because it's always just a matter of time before an update breaks things or you get impossible to diagnose behaviour since you disabled something and a new "feature" was written expecting that something to be there.

Microsoft can barely make Windows function when you're using it as intended. I don't expect them to make it work after I messed with their semi-functioning mess.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by mancerayder »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #81
ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 10 searching the web started it all for me - not AI. Followed by constantly changing/moving the option on how to disable it. Use Edge, Onedrive, help finish setting up your PC (by logging in), constant disrespect of me the user. W11 local accounts only with terminal hacks sealed the deal along with valves contributions to linux.

The dumbification of Control Panel to Settings was one of the factors for me. I'm not sure if Control Panel is still available, hidden away somewhere, but I've since moved on to pastures that only seen to get greener when compared with the Microsoft Windows paddock. They're somehow finding new shades of brown on a monthly basis.

It's the movement, a vast Zeitgeist of evil, away from categorizing and organization, and towards Search.

I hate it. I was looking at how to fix the dark screen that resulted from turning on HDR in Windows 11, which some games need at the OS level for some reason, and Search was never giving me the Exact Keyword you need.

Search is always a guessing game, and you end up Googling the answer, it's so incredibly inefficient.

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Post by baal80spam »

kayamon wrote: post #254
jodrellblank wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk's net worth was $300Bn in November 2024 and he ended 2025 at $726Bn. ... where is this collapse?

It's in the actual currency. It's easy to have a large denomination of dollars if the currency is collapsing due to hyperinflation.

I certainly hope you are not suggesting that USA is experiencing hyperinflation...?

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by Mabusto »

protoster wrote: post #88

Too late, idiots. Just as Windows 10 was being retired, you ran the craziest anti-marketing campaign I've ever seen and successfully coaxed me into switching my daily driver to Linux. Until this year, I've been using windows my ENTIRE life.

Literally installing Arch right now as I read this. Same deal, been using windows as my daily driver all my life but have been running Linux servers since late 90s (and did daily drive RedHat back in the day).

My work env was just VS Code + WSL and I realized the most pain points came from using Explorer and trying to admin the machine with the fractured landscape of sys admin tools. For me it became very obvious that windows is only going to get more bloated and less “my” machine going forward, why stay on this platform if I’m already spending most of my day in a Linux environment (that I’m already familiar with).

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by randomfrogs »

stackghost wrote: post #230
randomfrogs wrote: post #204

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Apple's not great, but Microsoft is worse.

Nothing about Apple's naming schemes seems immediately rage-inducing. Sure, their stuff is bland, and I think it's stupid how people refer to doing things "on iPhone" instead of "on an iPhone", but otherwise Apple's products are mostly descriptive. Garage Band has to do with music, Pages is a word processor, iCloud is a cloud storage thing, etc. But even the Labrador licking his own balls that someone else mentioned…

Should I get an M4 Max MacBook Pro, or an M4 Pro Macbook Pro? Or a Mac Pro? Or skip the computer altogether and get an iPhone Pro Max?

I mean, c'mon. They are deliberately trying to be confusing.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by p_ing »

jpmattia wrote: post #184

Great. Let us hope that support for hardware without TPM is next. Creating several mountains worth of electronic waste was a terrible decision. And in the middle of the AI-induced memory shortage! Although I have to admit: The combination of AI and required new hardware has been a nice boost for switching to Linux.

TPM is necessary for security. Microsoft should not relent on this as the largest deployed consumer desktop OS.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by p_ing »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #197
jpmattia wrote: post #184

Great. Let us hope that support for hardware without TPM is next. Creating several mountains worth of electronic waste was a terrible decision. And in the middle of the AI-induced memory shortage! Although I have to admit: The combination of AI and required new hardware has been a nice boost for switching to Linux.

Motherboards have had TPM support (built-in/exteral) since like 2017. Are there a bunch of models that don't support a plug-in TPM? I guess the BIOS would probably be the next issue.

fTPM is in the CPU [package], which has been the norm since around that point in time. Motherboard slotted TPMs should be a rarity, now.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by acdha »

randomfrogs wrote: post #267
stackghost wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing about Apple's naming schemes seems immediately rage-inducing. Sure, their stuff is bland, and I think it's stupid how people refer to doing things "on iPhone" instead of "on an iPhone", but otherwise Apple's products are mostly descriptive. Garage Band has to do with music, Pages is a word processor, iCloud is a cloud storage thing, etc. But even the Labrador licking his own balls that someone else mentioned…

Should I get an M4 Max MacBook Pro, or an M4 Pro Macbook Pro? Or a Mac Pro? Or skip the computer altogether and get an iPhone Pro Max? I mean, c'mon. They are deliberately trying to be confusing.

Use the real product names and that problem largely goes away:

MacBook Pro (M5)

MacBook Pro (M4 Ultra)

MacBook Pro (M4 Pro)

Mac Pro (M2 Ultra)

Once you remember the general rule that Pro costs/does more than the base model, it’s really not that hard to keep track of.

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