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Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

bronco21016 wrote: post #170
zvqcMMV6Zcr wrote: post #163

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I would love AI to take over monitoring. "Alert me when logs or metrics look weird". SIEM vendors often have their special sauce ML, so a bit more open and generic tool would be nice. Manually setting alerting thresholds takes just too much effort, navigating narrow path between missing things and being flooded by messages.

I still think you're going to be in manual threshold tuning for quite a while. The cost of feeding a continuous log to an LLM would be insane. Even if you batched until you filled a context window.

Sending screenshots of charts and dashboards is also effective, and often context-window-friendlier

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Post by dev_l1x_be »

ilitirit wrote: post #193

I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…

Yeah the best way to get into vibe coding is to introduce it gradually with a strict process. All of these "Hey just give a macmini and you apple account to RandomCrap" is insane.

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Post by peterlk »

ilitirit wrote: post #193

I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…

I see value here. Firstly, it’s a fun toy. This isn’t that great if you care about being productive at work, but I don’t think fun should be so heavily discounted. Second, the possibility of me _finally_ having a single interface that can deal with message/notification overload is a life-changing opportunity. For a long time, I have wanted a single message interface with everything. Matrix bridges kind of got close, but didn’t actually work that well. Now, I get pretty good functionality plus summarization and prioritization. Whether it “actually works” (like matrix bridges did not) is yet to be seen.

With all that said, I haven’t mentioned anything about the economics, and like much of the AI industry, those might be overstated. But running a local language model on my macbook that helps me with messaging productivity is a compelling idea.

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Post by cactus2093 »

voodooEntity wrote: post #39

So i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time. I don't say it doesn't "work" or serves a purpose - but well i read so much about this beein an "actual intelligence" and stuff that i had to look into the source. As someone who spends actually a definately to big portion of his free time researching thought process replication and related topics in the realm of "AI" this is not really…

This comment sounds exactly like the infamous "Dropbox is trivially recreated with FTP" one from 20 years ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

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Post by Gracana »

yawniek wrote: post #213
ilitirit wrote: post #193

I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…

cost. the amount of things that before cost you either hours or real money went down to a chat with a few sentences. it makes it suddenly possibly to scale an (at least semi-) savy tech person without other humans and that much faster. this directly gives it a very tanglible value. the "market" might not be huge for this and yes, its mostly youtubers and influencers that "get this". Mainly because the work they do is…

What does scaling a person mean?

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Post by fogzen »

atonse wrote: post #178

I built something like this over the last 2 months (my company's name is Kaizen, so the bot's named "Kai"), and it helps me run my business. Right now, since I'm security obsessed, everything is private (for example, it's only exposed over tailscale, and requires google auth). But I've integrated with our various systems (quickbooks for financial reporting and invoice tracking, google drive for contracts, insurance c…

Can you describe the architecture a bit? You setup a server that runs the app, the app's interface is Slack, and that calls out to ChatGPT or something using locally built tool calls?

Was thinking of setting up something like this and was kind of surprised nothing simple seems to exist already. Actually incredibly surprising this isn't something offered by OpenAI.

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Post by RickS »

turnsout wrote: post #206
azinman2 wrote: post #187

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Post it!

A lot of the system prompt, skills and tools center around my specific needs (I manage separate IMAP and Gmail inboxes, use Granola, and have iCloud calendars). And there are some hard assumptions baked in (I want to have a morning & afternoon check-in). It probably wouldn't be useful as-is, but maybe as inspiration?

If it was oneshotted, I'd be curious to see the prompt

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Post by TheGRS »

fnordlord wrote: post #179
jmathai wrote: post #133

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Are you all enabling auto reload for personal projects? I load $20 at a time and wait for it to break and add more.

Can you get meaningful work done with CC at $20 at a time? I load $20 at a time onto the API for general chatting purposes and it lasts a few months at a time. I've always avoided trying CC because I got the impression people were burning $100+/mo, which is beyond my personal hobby budget.

I was doing that initially, but I think the subscriptions are generally worth it for personal projects. $20/mo is good if you're like me and you can do this stuff maybe a couple nights a week, I haven't run into the limitations on that yet. The $100+ subscriptions are needed if you're doing it every day. YMMV
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