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The U.S. Government Just Followed Through on Its Ban of DJI Drones

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Post by elzbardico »

stickfigure wrote: post #43
Kapura wrote: post #2

Seeing how drone warfare has become the new hot front in 21st century conflicts like Ukraine, it's hard not to speculate on the implications of this as political unrest continues to rise in the U.S. It's no secret that the current U.S. regime views a sizeable portion of its own civilian citizens as enemy combatants. They are already shooting people in the face and not even putting up a pretense of acting shocked at t…

Trump will be gone in 3 years. Maybe fewer depending on his health. It's unlikely that this change will have any meaningful effect on US democracy. On the other hand, little drones are effectively munitions now. That means drone manufacturing capacity is effectively munitions manufacturing capacity. We're giving potential adversaries economies of scale building things that may be used to kill us. I'm generally a pret…

So, the war in Ukraine, provoked by the US financing the biggest army in Europe, after financing a coup, made you even more into the Neocon propaganda?

Clearly a hopeless case.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

simianparrot wrote: post #192
Someone1234 wrote: post #110

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32 people[0] have died in ICE custody, and an additional 4 this year alone[1]. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_in_ICE_detentio...

* died while trying to flee from their crime.

In the USA we don't condone extra-judicial killings, especially by our government officials.

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Post by goatlover »

mikkupikku wrote: post #206
goatlover wrote: post #172

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I don't understand what jurisdiction ICE has to enforce traffic laws. We see other vehicles drive around her vehicle, so at most it was a minor inconvenience for ICE. Call the local LE on her if you don't like how she's parked in the road and they can issue a ticket.

Federal agents can arrest people for obstructing them, if you block the road they aren't obliged to defer to local cops and laws, because fucking with federal agents like that violates federal laws. Regardless, none of it justifies a murder.

The road wasn't blocked since we see other vehicles drive around her, which ICE could have done instead of escalating the situation as we see them doing in dozens of videos coming out of the Minneapolis area. Keep in mind that the administration is not acting in good faith. Trump has politicized ICE to go after blue cities he doesn't like. Stephen Miller started the escalations when he sent ICE to Home Depot parking lots in LA because his desired quoata wasn't being met.

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Post by belval »

glitchc wrote: post #91
belval wrote: post #19

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I haven't kept up to date but does the US have that much more leverage over Canada anymore? Last I checked we have tariffs on most exports, including crude, wood, steel and aluminium (probably missing a bunch). General goods are tariff'ed at 35% while China is tariff'ed at 47.5%. They could get us to ban DJI for sure but I'd assume it'd be more through carrot than stick, because at this point we've been pretty consis…

> General goods are tariff'ed at 35% while China is tariff'ed at 47.5%. Incorrect. General tariffs are only on goods not already covered by CUSMA, which, other than the specific items already called out (aluminum, steel, etc.), is a very small set.

I stand corrected, I guess there are still plenty of sticks to beat us with.

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Post by goatlover »

alex43578 wrote: post #214
goatlover wrote: post #167

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Law enforcement is trained not to shoot at a moving vehicle because you risk public safety if the driver is incapacitated. Also LE is trained not to put themselves in front or back of the vehicle, since you can get run over that way. Agent Jonathan Ross did not follow his training, despite being dragged by a vehicle months earlier. You also have to ask why Renee Good decided to leave her wife behind who tried to get…

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Well that's not what I've seen said by law enforcement officers analyzing the video footage, but then again I avoid watching news media that serves the interests of the current administration. It's upsetting so many people repeat propaganda.

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Post by FpUser »

ericmay wrote: post #173
FpUser wrote: post #159

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Some 150,000,000 people in Russia vs some 450,000,000 in EU. I think it is unrealistic and I think Russia / Putin knows it.

Depends. Is he actually fighting 450,000,000 in the EU? Is Portugal going to send troops to the front lines in Estonia? Will Germans accept being drafted to go fight in Ukraine? These are serious questions. Meanwhile Putin is very much able to draft Russians to fight wars, and god-forbid he takes over Ukraine he'll send Ukrainians too.

>"Will Germans accept being drafted to go fight in Ukraine"

Ukraine is not in EU. As for the rest - if they don't then, well, they were just hiding behind the US with all the consequences.

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Post by shigawire »

bdavisx wrote: post #240
Kapura wrote: post #180

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These things are true, but they don't explain why the u.s. government would make it a priority to ban such technologies. saying "well, republicans are bad so they do bad things" robs us the ability to understand the world.

The problem with your statement is there's no way to know - the reality is it could have been a bribe or lack of a bribe; it could have been an actual foreign policy decision based on facts; or some other reason. It's not hard to come up with reasons why it was done, but with this administration there's no way to know whatsoever unless you actually know someone on the inside.

And reporters are not allowed to ask questions of the people inside. And the voting public wouldn't care if those questions were ignored anyway.

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Post by goatlover »

simianparrot wrote: post #231
DIVx0 wrote: post #221

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Glad that Norway has the immigration problem solved *eye roll* Tell me more about how humans are criminals for existing? You hate the idea of someone standing on your piece of dirt without your express say-so that your preference is to live under an umbrella of fear and suspicion of your neighbors? Forgive me, this is not how I want to live. I wonder how many Norwegians who settled in Minnesota were illegal immigrant…

Entering a country illegally is a crime. We have borders. You are letting yourself be emotionally manipulated into suicidal empathy.

The US isn't Norway, we're the world's largest economy and 4th largest in land area. Immigration has always been a net positive for the country (setting aside how negative European immigration was for the Native Americans). Migrants perform all sorts of work, and they offset declining birth rates. They also add to the cultural melting pot.

"Suicidal empathy" sounds like a far right talking point, because you don't want too many brown Muslisms in Europe.

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Post by mikkupikku »

goatlover wrote: post #264
mikkupikku wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federal agents can arrest people for obstructing them, if you block the road they aren't obliged to defer to local cops and laws, because fucking with federal agents like that violates federal laws. Regardless, none of it justifies a murder.

The road wasn't blocked since we see other vehicles drive around her, which ICE could have done instead of escalating the situation as we see them doing in dozens of videos coming out of the Minneapolis area. Keep in mind that the administration is not acting in good faith. Trump has politicized ICE to go after blue cities he doesn't like. Stephen Miller started the escalations when he sent ICE to Home Depot parking…

If the arrest for obstructing wasn't merited, the right way to handle that is to hire a lawyer. Fleeing the scene in a vehicle is never the right approach in America (or frankly anywhere), it endangers the public generally not to mention your own life in particular.

In either case, it shouldn't matter to this case. The man should be put on trial not to decide if ICE's mission is legitimate nor to decide if she was guilty of obstruction or fleeing, but rather for murder. The question of whether he, in that moment, genuinely believed there was a lethal threat to his life is what should decide this case.

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