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ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by jjmarr »

bko wrote: post #183
Flatterer3544 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how would you know what they base their hiring upon? You would just get a generic automated response.. You would not be privy to their internal processes, and thusfar not be able to prove wrong doing. You would just have to hope for a new Snowden and that the found wrongdoings would actually be punished this time.

I don't get it, if you're medically unfit for a job, why would you want the job? For instance, if your job is to be on your feet all day and you can barely stand, then that job is not for you. I have never met employers that are so flush in opportunities of candidates that they just randomly choose to exclude certain people. And if it's insurance, there's a group rate. The difference only variable is what the employe…

Very large employers don't have a group rate. The insurance company administers the plan on behalf of the company according to pre-agreed rules, then the company covers all costs according to the employee health situation.

Read your policy!

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Post by zaptheimpaler »

jsheard wrote: post #22
bwb wrote: post #12

ChatGPT has made a material difference in my ability to understand health problems, test results, and to communicate with doctors effectively. My wife and I were talking last night about how helpful it was in 2025. I hope that it continues to be good at this. I want regulators to keep an eye on this and make smart laws. I don't want it to go away, as its value is massive in my life. (One example, if you are curious:…

On the other hand, sometimes you end up like this guy. Are you feeling lucky? https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/08/after-using-chatgpt-m...

No, there's a difference between radically changing your diet and changing up your stretch/strength routine.. you don't just "end up" like one of them, you can evaluate that the downside risk of the latter is much lower and try it safely while recognizing that an extreme diet might not be so safe to try without any professional guidance.

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by basket_horse »

tl wrote: post #259
basket_horse wrote: post #248

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You’re over thinking it. Like all top tech companies, they just want the best engineers.

On the contrary, they hire the trendiest: https://danluu.com/programmer-moneyball/

Yeah this seems accurate, I just mean they aren’t looking at your google searches when deciding if they should hire you.

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Post by deaux »

class3shock wrote: post #236
bwb wrote: post #12

ChatGPT has made a material difference in my ability to understand health problems, test results, and to communicate with doctors effectively. My wife and I were talking last night about how helpful it was in 2025. I hope that it continues to be good at this. I want regulators to keep an eye on this and make smart laws. I don't want it to go away, as its value is massive in my life. (One example, if you are curious:…

Or it's a placebo effect. And if it didn't work out and made you worse or, god forbid, the advice caused you to get seriously injured, then what? ChatGPT won't take any responsibility. I have so many issues with our current health system but an alternative is not an unreliable search tool that takes no responsibility for the information it provides.

> And if it didn't work out and made you worse or, god forbid, the advice caused you to get seriously injured, then what? ChatGPT won't take any responsibility.

Realistically in 99% of actual cases where this happens due to human medical advice, the humans too won't take any responsibility.

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Post by acuozzo »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #225
ares623 wrote: post #203

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Ah the ol’ “fuck you got mine” approach

Exactly what am I suppose to do? I vote for politicians who talk about universal healthcare, universal child care, public funding of college education and trade schools etc. But the country and the people who could most benefit from it are more concerned with whatever fake outrage Fox News comes up with an anti woke something or the other. So yeah, if this is the country America wants, I’m over it. I’ve done my bid.…

> Exactly what am I suppose to do?

I think GP is suggesting that you're supposed to do something akin to what Ben Kenobi did while aboard the Death Star, not what he did beforehand.

This, in no way, represents my own feelings or opinion on this matter. I'm just trying to aid the conversation.

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Post by darth_avocado »

joe_the_user wrote: post #230
simianwords wrote: post #71

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Can you explain the exact way in which this is possible? It’s not legal to be denied jobs based on health. Not to deny insurance

The ADA made it illegal to discriminate against job seekers for health conditions and ObamaCare made it illegal to base cover and rates on pre-existing conditions. What are the chances those bills last long in the current administration and supreme court?

And yet, if you want life insurance you can’t get it with a bunch of pre existing conditions. And you can be discriminated against as a job seeker as long as they don’t make it obvious.

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Post by nrb »

carlosjobim wrote: post #246
paulryanrogers wrote: post #244

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Most of us cannot afford to pay the full cost of healthcare for an emergency or major intervention. Medical bankruptcy is an increasingly common phenomenon. So if insurers can cut you off based on your ChatGPT queries or test results then you may find yourself in serious debt, homeless, without medical care, etc

Money is imaginary. Health is health. Sacrificing your health and your life in order to hedge against a completely hypothetical situation is not a dignified existence. Bankruptcy is of course much preferable to not having your health. Even having to argue this is bizarre. We are not human batteries in the Matrix. Our purpose is not to please institutions or destroy our own lives for fear of hypothetical situations. D…

Health is imaginary, life is imaginary, this is all imaginary. There’s no point in drawing an arbitrary line in the sand for what our purpose is or lecturing us on what we should be focusing on.

We have seen, again and again, business encroach on our quality of life and it does warrant skepticism and alertness about their motivations.

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Post by neilv »

simianwords wrote: post #71
trollbridge wrote: post #18

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This sounds like excellent evidentiary material for a future insurer or government health provider to decide you're uninsurable, not eligible for a job, and so on. And the great thing about it is that you already signed all your rights away for them to do this exact thing , when we could have had an open world with open models run locally instead where you got to keep your private health information private.

Can you explain the exact way in which this is possible? It’s not legal to be denied jobs based on health. Not to deny insurance

> It’s not legal to be denied jobs based on health. Not to deny insurance

The US has been pretty much a free-for-all for surveillance and abusing all sorts of information, even when illegal to do so. On the rare occasions that they get caught, the penalty is almost always a handslap, and they know it.

Re: ChatGPT Health is a marketplace, guess who is the product?

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Post by pseudalopex »

bko wrote: post #183
Flatterer3544 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how would you know what they base their hiring upon? You would just get a generic automated response.. You would not be privy to their internal processes, and thusfar not be able to prove wrong doing. You would just have to hope for a new Snowden and that the found wrongdoings would actually be punished this time.

I don't get it, if you're medically unfit for a job, why would you want the job? For instance, if your job is to be on your feet all day and you can barely stand, then that job is not for you. I have never met employers that are so flush in opportunities of candidates that they just randomly choose to exclude certain people. And if it's insurance, there's a group rate. The difference only variable is what the employe…

> And if it's insurance, there's a group rate.

Insurers derive rates for each employer from each employer's costs where laws allow this. And many employers self fund medical insurance.

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