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Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by saghm »

dash2 wrote: post #233
midldei wrote: post #217

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> i’m a fitness conscious 30 something white male Right. So able bodied, and the gender and race least associated with violence from the state. > being discriminated against for insurance if you have a drug habit "drug habit", Why choose an example that is often admonished as a personal failing? How about we say the same, but have something wholly, inarguably, outside of your control, like race, be the discriminating…

These points seem to be arguments against giving your health data to anybody, not just to an AI company.

If there's no evidence that it will help you or others, then that's a pretty hard position to argue against. The parent commenter asked about this, and the response basically was that it didn't seem likely to be harmful, and now you're responding to that.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by KeplerBoy »

125123wqw1212 wrote: post #255
dyauspitr wrote: post #246

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I mean if someone talked to you your whole life assuming you are autistic,that's kind of fucked up ?

That's kind of how it works though. People who know you very much associate certain traits and labels with you.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by 1412312510129 »

schwarzrules wrote: post #116

I understand all the chatter about LLMs hallucinating, or making assumptions, or not being able to understand or provide the more human/emotional element of health care. But the question I ask myself is: is this better than the alternative? if I wasn't asking ChatGPT, where would I go to get help? The answers I can anticipate are: questionably trustworthy web content; an overconfident friend who may have read questio…

This is the same as Googling your symptoms, but on a more broad scale. I think the issue here is how many people are going to give themself self-induced health anxiety because of this result.

There is no deny on positive case of people actually being helped by ChatGPT. It's well known that Doctors can often dismiss symptoms of rare conditions, and those people specifically find way more success on the internet because the people with similar conditions tends to gather here. This effect will repeat with ChatGPT.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by jdthedisciple »

The problem with dr appointments is that too often, physicians dont actually think carefully about your case.

It's like they one-shot it.

This is why I've had my dr change their mind between appointments, having had more time to review the data.

Or I get 3 different experts giving me 3 different (contradicting!) diagnoses.

That's also why I always hesitate listening to their first advice.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by 1412312510129 »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #262
125123wqw1212 wrote: post #255

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I mean if someone talked to you your whole life assuming you are autistic,that's kind of fucked up ?

That's kind of how it works though. People who know you very much associate certain traits and labels with you.

Yeah and it's fucked up, so being dramatic is warranted.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by derektank »

qgin wrote: post #126

I help take care of my 80-ish year old mother. ChatGPT figured out in 5 minutes the reason behind a pretty serious chronic problem that her very good doctors hadn't been able to figure out in 3 years. Her doctors came around to the possibility, tested out the hypothesis, and it was 100% right. She's doing great now (at least with that one thing). That's not to say that it's better than doctors or even that it's a goo…

Do you mind sharing the chat log?

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by simianwords »

nprateem wrote: post #240
roger_ wrote: post #22

I personally don’t care who has access to my health data, but I understand those who might. Either way, I’m excited for some actual innovation in the personal health field. Apple Health is more about aggregating data than actually producing actionable insights. 23andme was mostly useless. Today I have a ChatGPT project with my health history as a system prompt and it’s been very helpful. Recently I snapped a photo of…

Unless you're a doctor you don't know what it's made up though. That's the trouble with AI. You can only be impressed if you know a subject well enough to know it's not just bullshitting like usual.

This is exaggerated. AI is accurate enough that our sniff tests will get us far. ChatGPT just don't hallucinate all that often.

You can have the same problem with doctors who don't give you even 5 minutes of your time and who don't have time to read through all your medical history.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by simianwords »

MattDaEskimo wrote: post #29
roger_ wrote: post #22

I personally don’t care who has access to my health data, but I understand those who might. Either way, I’m excited for some actual innovation in the personal health field. Apple Health is more about aggregating data than actually producing actionable insights. 23andme was mostly useless. Today I have a ChatGPT project with my health history as a system prompt and it’s been very helpful. Recently I snapped a photo of…

I'm sorry, but seriously? How could you not care who has your health data? I think the more plausible comment is "I've been protected my whole life by health data privacy laws that I have no idea what the other side looks like". Quite frankly, this is even worse as it can and will override doctors orders and feed into people's delusions as an "expert".

What is it with you people and privacy? Sure it is a minor problem but to be _this_ affected by it? Your hospitals already have your data. Google probably has your data that you have google searched.

What's the worst that can happen with OpenAI having your health data? Vs the best case? You all are no different from AI doomers who claim AI will take over the world.. really nonsensical predictions giving undue weight to the worst possible outcomes.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by simianwords »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #92
roger_ wrote: post #33

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I’d rather have all my health data be used in a way that can actually help me, even with a risk of a breach or misuse, than having it in a folder somewhere doing nothing.

It can also help you in not getting a job because your health data says you'll be sick in 6 months.

How do you think that can happen realistically? Like seriously can you explain clearly how the data from ChatGPT gets to your employer?
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