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I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by intern4tional »

nebezb wrote: post #260
colbythrowaway wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not an engineer, and no one should be getting the impression that anyone else is under the impression that HN is the place to seek an authoritative disposition about this. It is, though, an acceptable channel for the sort of collegial and informal heads-up that this is (and which is all that this is). Your desire to condescend, however, is noted.

You’re not the random engineer. Ben, the commenter you’re replying to, is. You were given helpful advice and a link. I don’t see this being condescending.

Correct, that was my intent - Ben isn't the proper channel as he is just an engineer responding to comments here. Stuff like this is serious and so should be escalated.

Compliance with FOSS licenses isn't a joke.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by intern4tional »

colbythrowaway wrote: post #236
intern4tional wrote: post #227

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Assuming this is real and you have the authority to share your work from previous location; you should reach out and contact Microsoft Legal directly. A random engineer on Hacker News is not the proper channel. Link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/compliance/sbc/report-...

I'm not an engineer, and no one should be getting the impression that anyone else is under the impression that HN is the place to seek an authoritative disposition about this. It is, though, an acceptable channel for the sort of collegial and informal heads-up that this is (and which is all that this is). Your desire to condescend, however, is noted.

You misunderstand.

Ben is a random engineer, he is definitely not the proper point of contact. FOSS compliance is serious, so if this is real, do escalate it.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by WolfeReader »

sauercrowd wrote: post #211
WolfeReader wrote: post #200

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You should really look in to the difference between opt-in and opt-out. Opt-in respects the user; opt-out is for foisting features that the user might not need or want.

Flip it around: a new user might be confused why the AI features that all their friends told them about are not available. It's a tradeoff

If it means more users aren't using Gen AI, I'll happily take that tradeoff!

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by CuriouslyC »

WolfeReader wrote: post #200
illiac786 wrote: post #193

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I really don’t get this attitude. What deal do you mean? You using VS Code? Why not change the setting simply?

You should really look in to the difference between opt-in and opt-out. Opt-in respects the user; opt-out is for foisting features that the user might not need or want.

The anti-AI folks should just fork everything at this point, because it's hypocritical as hell to complain about it and use a bunch of stuff built with it. Then you can opt out of society!

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by spartanatreyu »

heartbreak wrote: post #258
spartanatreyu wrote: post #244

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> Why not change the setting simply? My default settings are stored in a 11922 line json file. Am I expected to read that entire file to find the setting I'm after? Am I expected to do so when I don't know what the setting is called? The reason you can't simply change the setting is because the setting isn't simple. It's essentially a hidden setting, cloaked behind an ambiguous name in a user-hostile manner.

> My default settings are stored in a 11922 line json file. Am I expected to read that entire file to find the setting I'm after? That’s what AI is for. Have it turn itself off.

Ah, but if AI was correct, I wouldn't need to turn it off.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by verdverm »

WD-42 wrote: post #247
verdverm wrote: post #233

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Let's see if that holds up when it has better feature parity. Things always run faster when you have less to do

Zed doesn’t need to run a web browser so I kinda doubt it will ever have “as much to do”

Zed still has to implement a rendering engine, if anything they miss out in several ways by not sharing the same rendering engine

but I mean actual features you see people here asking for because they are missing, those will require CPU cycles and memory

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by foxylad »

This article (and holiday spare time) made me update and check zed again. I really liked it when I tried it a few months ago, but it failed miserably when doing work on remote code. It would hang, and I couldn't find any diagnostics to debug it's fairly complex remote agent to find out what went wrong.

But now it works fine! Remote work is noticeably snappier than via mounting the remote server as a drive, and remote git seems to work nicely. A very nice Christmas present - thanks, Zed!

Good job Zed!

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by sgc »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #244
illiac786 wrote: post #193

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I really don’t get this attitude. What deal do you mean? You using VS Code? Why not change the setting simply?

> Why not change the setting simply? My default settings are stored in a 11922 line json file. Am I expected to read that entire file to find the setting I'm after? Am I expected to do so when I don't know what the setting is called? The reason you can't simply change the setting is because the setting isn't simple. It's essentially a hidden setting, cloaked behind an ambiguous name in a user-hostile manner.

It's a tool for programmers. Use google + ctrl+f. Not a hill to die on.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by vbezhenar »

bpasero wrote: post #131

We maintain a single VS Code setting that allows you to opt out of the AI features provided in VS Code: "chat.disableAIFeatures" (see also: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_104#_hide-and-disab... ). If you can still find AI features appearing after you have configured this setting, then please report an issue at https://github.com/microsoft/vscode and we are happy to take a look. It is possible that from time…

Thanks for that setting! TBH I'd prefer for vscode not to ship any AI features and let user install them from extensions, but managers probably will not be happy, so at least that setting helps to stay sane.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by vbezhenar »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #244
illiac786 wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don’t get this attitude. What deal do you mean? You using VS Code? Why not change the setting simply?

> Why not change the setting simply? My default settings are stored in a 11922 line json file. Am I expected to read that entire file to find the setting I'm after? Am I expected to do so when I don't know what the setting is called? The reason you can't simply change the setting is because the setting isn't simple. It's essentially a hidden setting, cloaked behind an ambiguous name in a user-hostile manner.

> My default settings are stored in a 11922 line json file.

And I thought my 50 lines settings.json is getting unmanageable and needs some cutting. WoW.

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