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Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by djaouen »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #251
djaouen wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I graduated from an Ivy and, after graduation, I was (and continue to be, to this day) dirt poor.

I have some doubts about this, or at least what your definition of dirt poor is. The ability required to get into an ivy is so significant I don’t see how someone could fail to make substantial sums if they wanted to.

I grew up in NYC and was lucky enough (or smart enough, I suppose) to get into one of the top public high schools in the city. Because of that (and doing well enough in that school), I was able to squeak into Cornell via its wait list.

But I don’t come from connections: my mother was a receptionist and my father was a sanitation worker. For a while after college, I managed to find work doing backend development for various local businesses, but nothing fancy. But even that has dried up due to various reasons (including a major health issue I developed after graduating).

For some reason, it seems people in authority positions are irked by me due to my humble beginnings & my insistence on continual learning, even after graduating from school. If I had a penny (or I guess now, nickel?) for every time an interviewer asked me, “How did you learn that when you majored in Industrial Engineering,” I’d be a very rich man.

Or at least able to afford all the books I want to read. :(

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by unsupp0rted »

noname123 wrote: post #17

I work on campus (very very close to the engineering building) and I previously lived near Brookline. So all of this hits home. But what got me was the tipster who blew wide open the case is reportedly a homeless Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building (a la South Korean film Parasite). It made me so sad but also not surprised, that building does have a single occupancy bathroom with show…

> in a society that rewards conformity, settling and stability.

It also rewards value generation, often above the other things

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Post by mmooss »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #262
noname123 wrote: post #17

I work on campus (very very close to the engineering building) and I previously lived near Brookline. So all of this hits home. But what got me was the tipster who blew wide open the case is reportedly a homeless Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building (a la South Korean film Parasite). It made me so sad but also not surprised, that building does have a single occupancy bathroom with show…

> in a society that rewards conformity, settling and stability. It also rewards value generation, often above the other things

Value defined how and for whom? Single parents without paying work provide an enormous amount of value but often can't get housing.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

bofadeez wrote: post #189
Dylan16807 wrote: post #182

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He wasn't interfering with the building owners. You're making up a justification to screw this guy over. That's really sad .

Oh if he wasn't interferring, then they must have allowed him to keep living there? Why is that sad, you want him to be kicked out? (You forgot to use logic or explain a point of view and instead just made a random moral judgement and expressed the emotion it made you feel, so I had to make some assumptions about your intentions and depth of thought)

I think my logic is fine. You pulled reasons to get rid of him out of nowhere, not based on the facts of the case. Not just supporting a possible eviction but preemptively deciding it's the only way to get peaceful use of their building even though they were already getting peaceful use of their building. That's sad, because you're justifying a big punishment as consequence of doing a big good deed, with nobody benefitting.

And your first sentence makes no sense. That's not how people usually work. They get possessive and risk-averse and ban things that are unusual. That "if-then" is a total joke, and without it your criticism of my argument falls apart.

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Post by lazide »

musicale wrote: post #258
lazide wrote: post #228

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Graduate school violence == suicide?

Perhaps I should have said something like intentional harm leading to death to make it clearer. But the person isn't any more alive even if they were somehow killed by some gentle, peaceful method.

That has a clear definition which I doubt is what is occurring?

Or are you asserting that these folks are getting locked up and tortured until they kill themselves?

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Post by Philadelphia »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #248
phlakaton wrote: post #161

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This generalization is very, very wrong. I can tell you, from my personal college network, many students had monetary constraints coming in, and many certainly had monetary constraints coming out. Some of that was choice of career path; some was not.

I don’t understand how someone coming out of Brown or Yale would have constraints coming out. Their degree is basically free, basically any degree can get them an analyst gig on Wall Street if they so choose, and at worst they can go down the law school path.

You don’t become one of the wealthy just by going to school with them. You’re still an outsider, lesser, just one of the little people, not their sort.

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Post by darubedarob »

alexpotato wrote: post #124
noname123 wrote: post #17

I work on campus (very very close to the engineering building) and I previously lived near Brookline. So all of this hits home. But what got me was the tipster who blew wide open the case is reportedly a homeless Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building (a la South Korean film Parasite). It made me so sad but also not surprised, that building does have a single occupancy bathroom with show…

There was a homeless guy living in the gym at Rutgers prior to the late 1990s and it's why you had to show ID to get into any of the gyms/dorms. Very similar story of: - he was older - dressed normally - everyone assumed he was an assistant coach, grad student etc They mentioned it multiple times in safety briefings and even at "how to be a club officer" meetings to ensure that everyone participating/involved was act…

So if you are a modern homeless guy, you need a skimmer and cardcloner to get in now? Have there been cases of homeless people hacking hotels/motels?

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Post by laidoffamazon »

Philadelphia wrote: post #267
laidoffamazon wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand how someone coming out of Brown or Yale would have constraints coming out. Their degree is basically free, basically any degree can get them an analyst gig on Wall Street if they so choose, and at worst they can go down the law school path.

You don’t become one of the wealthy just by going to school with them. You’re still an outsider, lesser, just one of the little people, not their sort.

As someone too inferior to get into one it sure doesn’t seem that way

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by almosthere »

watwut wrote: post #259
almosthere wrote: post #156

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I mentioned to someone that day that the person would be caught by a family member - that this stuff was looking more and more like Mangione - who was also primarily caught by his mom. That being said, the only reason family ends up ratting these people out is because of the high pressure it ends up on the family. If it turns out they find these people, and the family did not turn them in, they are going to the big h…

> the only reason family ends up ratting these people out is because of the high pressure it ends up on the family. That is not true. There was no pressure on unabomber brother - he "ratted" him out entirely on own will. Also Elliot Rodgers parents called police after they read the manifesto - before any pressure happened. Ex wife of DC shootings had restraining order on him, feared him, and when police asked whether…

Other than going left leaning Robinson was not hated by his family, but when they found out they immediately got the police involved. Same with Mangione (not with the left leaning aspect, but the familial love).

I'm not saying your angle is wrong - it's just that one way or another they'll be turned in.

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