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Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by krzyk »

taligent wrote: post #155
LordIllidan wrote: post #103

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7$ a month for 5 private repos is not worth it all. I acknowledge that Github is a business but I am not about to pay a lot of money for hosting all my repositories, when I can do the same on Bitbucket for free. And when the team grows enough that I'd have to pay Bitbucket, I'll do so willingly.

Are you mad ? $7 a month is nothing for something that you are going to use countless times whilst developing your product. And no offense but Bitbucket is still a clunky mess that lacks the most critical feature: integration with almost every open source project.

Could you elaborate on "integration with almost every open source project" ? I don't get it.

For me github (and git) is like iPhone, a place for the "cool kids", and bitbucket for the rest of us :) Mostly because some github/git/iPhone/Mac enthusiasts are rather loud and fanboy-like - this destroys git experience for me. I prefer calm mercurial/linux enviroment :)

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by pimentel »

bryanh wrote: post #8

For a while I was a bit worried that GitHub had just ran away with the prize and no one else was bothering. It is pretty obvious that Google isn't interested in improving Google Code and that Sourceforge hasn't aged a day (that's not really fair, but it feels like it). I think there is still a chance for BitBucket to make a splash, but I think its going to be hard to win anymore. That's fine, 2nd place makes a lot of…

> (not counting places 1-10 for enterprise source control, which basically print money, and of which GitHub is chasing too).

What kind of source control do big corps use? Don't they just use SVN, with enormous budget for maintenance contracts?

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by edmccard »

gcr wrote: post #236
timr wrote: post #227

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Yes. Especially when you factor in that github does a startlingly bad job of many basic things. Their ticketing system blows, for example -- you can't prioritize anything. Yet they have time to implement a CLI in the search bar... I moved my personal private repos to BitBucket a long time ago, and haven't looked back.

You can reorder tasks by clicking and dragging, and you can assign discrete priorities with labels. What more do you need?

>What more do you need?

Well, when you've got a large list of things stored on a computer, and you want them displayed in a certain order, automatic sorting (after you assign a priority) is a lot more useful than having to rearrange them manually.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by sandGorgon »

To the bitbucket team - one quick feedback.

Many of us, use github profile pages as resumes. Your redesign focus has been towards "repository landing pages" rather than user "user landing pages".

E.g. take a look at https://bitbucket.org/basho vs https://github.com/basho and https://bitbucket.org/basho/riak-0.9.2 vs https://github.com/basho/riak .

Please make the user pages a little richer and I shall be infinitely grateful. While we are on that, could you use a better Markdown parser please ?

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by ElliotH »

Ryan_Shmotkin wrote: post #209
notatoad wrote: post #27

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Bitbucket had a pretty easy time of winning my business: free private repositories for small teams is a great way to draw people in.

Can someone explain whats the catch ? Looks like I can host my $22 github account for free on bitbucket.

You can.

BitBucket is run by Atlassian, their goal is to later upsell you to their line of products, so they loss lead with free unlimited private repos in the hope that if you need a project management/bugtracker system you might choose JIRA.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by HarveyKandola »

biafra wrote: post #194
vijayr wrote: post #175

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I used JIRA too. While I don't hate it, it wouldn't be my first choice. What is changing in 6 months?

What is better than Jira for you and why?

We usually give Jira a good fight with Gemini:

http://www.geminiplatform.com

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by simfoo »

LinaLauneBaer wrote: post #267

I would love to use Github but I am using Bitbucket instead because I can only pay via credit card at Github and I don't want to own a credit card.

This. I am a young student from Germany and at least in my environment almost nobody owns a credit card. Why should we when you can pay everywhere with your debit card (without fees!). AWS, I'm looking at you :/

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by arnarbi »

yosoyzenitram wrote: post #184
notatoad wrote: post #27

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Bitbucket had a pretty easy time of winning my business: free private repositories for small teams is a great way to draw people in.

Even better: if you sign up with a .edu email address (hell, even my university email account works and it's a .es), they upgrade your account to unlimited everything , automatically. GitHub also does a Educational plan, but it requires manual requests and IIRC they give you a Micro account. So Bitbucket is the default choice for all my shared class projects.

Thank you! My Swedish university address worked as well. Just created also an unlimited team account for my research group. This is exactly what I have been wishing Github would do for a couple of years now.

Re: Introducing the Redesigned Bitbucket

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Post by tayl0r »

It's hilarious how difficult it is to get a non-programmer on Windows setup on Bitbucket (to clone a repo and then push a commit).

I don't blame this on Bitbucket, I blame the state of Windows Git applications.

My friend who is an artist (pretty technical too but he's not a programmer and never deals with SSH) is going to do some art for me for a game project I have in Bitbucket. I added him to my repo and told him to download Gitextensions, which seems to be, arguably, the best free graphical git app for Windows.

So, he downloaded it and set it up but when he started it up for the first time there was no option to clone from a source URL other than from Github.

First you have to figure out that you need to setup your SSH key and then clone the SSH url. I know that, but a non-programmer with no experience using git before would probably have zero clue.

You have to then setup your SSH key using Putty, and I'm sure we all know how awesome it is that SSH keys generated with Putty are in a different format than SSH keys generated with ssh-keygen, so pasting your public key into the Bitbucket site leads to nothing but problems. You have to erase some stuff, add "ssh-rsa" to the front, remove the newlines, etc. You can't just copy and paste the whole thing. If you aren't experienced with SSH keys you will not be able to figure it out. The bitbucket docs for this step assume you have an SSH key generated from ssh-keygen and not from putty, so they are of no help.

Once you get your ssh key straightened out then it's not too bad.

In short, it sucks. If Bitbucket wants to capture people other than programmers they need a better Windows app. For this reason alone I would be tempted to use Github instead since they have a dedicated Windows app.

Gitextensions is open source too so they it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to just add support for Bitbucket just like they have for Github.

I've used SmartGit for Windows too but I'm not a fan of their products and I was looking for something free.

Does anyone have suggestions for getting non-programmers setup on Windows?

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