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Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by flanked-evergl »

netsharc wrote: post #157
throwaway198846 wrote: post #84

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What does one man living in Canada have to do with how much people in Israel love children? There have been many frauds of cancer in children. Here https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-14/sa-couple-alleged-fak... is one, an Australian couple asking donations for a fake cancer. Is it reasonable to believe Australia doesn't like children because of it? No in fact it so ridiculous that even asking it is frankly stupid.

If the scammer were Muslim, many people would have no issue ascribing blame to swathes of people with the same religion, calling the religion itself cancer. Huh, maybe people can ask for donations to be cured of that "cancer"...

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Post by rationalist »

KingMob wrote: post #152
SilverElfin wrote: post #49

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In some American cities I’ve noticed a lot of seemingly homeless women with kids standing on street corners, that are actually Romanian scammers (“gypsies”). People have caught them drugging their babies to make them compliant with sitting under the hot sun all day. And at the end of the day they climb into a Benz because they aren’t actually in need. It really sucks for the people who are truly in need.

> at the end of the day they climb into a Benz I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $200, Alex.

I can't attest to the other parts, but I can attest to the nice cars part.

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Post by afavour »

mlrtime wrote: post #203
jdranczewski wrote: post #24

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The article says they visited both the US and Israel registration addresses and didn't find the organisation's offices. I was impressed by the amount of "on the ground digging" by the journalists here!

It's really not that hard to find someone to go to check a address, redditors do this all the time. It should be expected as basic journalism, especially with high claims.

Check an address and interview anyone resident there in a way that gets useful answers to the questions at hand.

In this instance it was a bust because no one useful was there. But if the mastermind behind the whole operation was there you’d want a professional to ask them questions. Because once they know they’ve been rumbled they’re probably going to disappear.

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Post by cindyllm »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #258
throwaway198846 wrote: post #84

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What does one man living in Canada have to do with how much people in Israel love children? There have been many frauds of cancer in children. Here https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-14/sa-couple-alleged-fak... is one, an Australian couple asking donations for a fake cancer. Is it reasonable to believe Australia doesn't like children because of it? No in fact it so ridiculous that even asking it is frankly stupid.

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

wongarsu wrote: post #165
impossiblefork wrote: post #89

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Market economy. Capitalism is a name for the bad thing-- "the accumulation of capital by some to the exclusion of others". Those who argue for a market economy usually claim that with their rule, it won't be accumulation of capital by some to the exclusion of others, with them assuring us that there will be free markets and competition. Both actual capitalism, i.e. the bad thing, and this which can plausible be argue…

Even in a pure unadulterated market economy that doesn't publicly fund healthcare you would expect to be able to protect yourself from high-impact low-likelihood events by means of an insurance. I find it hard to describe the US healthcare situation as anything other than a market failure

I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm.

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Post by Avicebron »

sgerenser wrote: post #248
ivape wrote: post #240

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Hmmm. But who can audit the reporting? Evidently, this looks like something they can manipulate. Is the bottom line roughly: Money received: 1000 Money used for good: 800 Labor: 200 Is that it? Because I can assure you, that will not turn out well.

The IRS can audit the reporting, and if you lie on egregiously you can even go to jail. Granted that is very rare, and we currently have an anti-IRS administration, but that’s the basic enforcement mechanism.

Ok, so what your describing is a pinky promise. I'm guessing enforcement requires people which is magically _too expensive_ and therefore worthless.

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Post by Loughla »

KingMob wrote: post #152
SilverElfin wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some American cities I’ve noticed a lot of seemingly homeless women with kids standing on street corners, that are actually Romanian scammers (“gypsies”). People have caught them drugging their babies to make them compliant with sitting under the hot sun all day. And at the end of the day they climb into a Benz because they aren’t actually in need. It really sucks for the people who are truly in need.

> at the end of the day they climb into a Benz I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $200, Alex.

This is an urban legend in every city I've ever lived in.

And he stood up out of the wheelchair and walked to his Mercedes and drove away and that's why I never give to homeless people (or formal charities).

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Post by [deleted] »

meindnoch wrote: post #208
huijzer wrote: post #168

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We have over the years raised billions (maybe trillions) for cancer treatments and we seem to have made negligible progress in actually curing cancer. Will it ever succeed? So maybe there is a root cause for your root cause?

Demonstrably false. There are immunotherapies today that can completely cure cancer.

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Post by throwaway198846 »

jack_tripper wrote: post #249
throwaway198846 wrote: post #107

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Do you believe all countries should automatically extradiate every person any other country demands? Or that there should be a limit on such process?

No, but the pattern of criminals of Jewish background fleeing to Israel for protection after commiting a crime, is too often to ignore. Same thing happened in my post communist country and the neighboring country too. Perp stole tens of millons through a banking scam in the 90s, then fled to Israel because he was Jewish and claimed persecution. At which point should the pattern be acknowledged?

And did you ask Israel for extradition? What his name was? And is this pattern actually unique to Israel or would you find other examples of people escaping to where the law can't reach them? If Israel wanted to convict a dual citizen who fled to your country, what is the required process?
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