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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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What mad world are we living in where Disney — Disney — is paying someone to lose control over its IP?

Disney isn't "paying someone," they're expecting to make money. They're investing.

The $1B turns into OpenAI stock. If Disney characters make OpenAI more valuable, that stock and its future dividends become more valuable.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Is this about when Sam mentioned they want to continue/start letting people do lewd texting with LLMs? Or are you talking about actual pornography?

The “lewd texting with LLM” will be a tool for writing actual pornography, and in workflows for image and video pornography, even if the image and video generation doesn’t happen on OpenAI’s platform (in fact, people are using ChatGPT and other major AI engines as tools in that already , but loosening the filters were facilitate that even more on OpenAI’s platform.) OpenAI knows that, and the people interested in tha…

> The “lewd texting with LLM” will be a tool for writing actual pornography

Sure, but does that mean "OpenAI has indicated they're getting into porn"? A bit like saying W3C is getting into porn because the web is used for porn, together with other things. Even when I try to think of parent's comment in the most charitable way, I don't think that's what they meant.

Personally I prefer if my tools stay as tools, and let me do professional work with them regardless of what that profession is.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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"there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged" Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate. The other thing I'd point out is that people kind of seem to forget this, but it isn't a requirement that AI video be gene…

> Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate.... Elsagate shows the level of effort that people are willing to put into this (a strange combination of laziness, but extreme effort poured into enabling that laziness). I still wonder what motivates the people behind that sort of thing. It'd be easy to understand if it were just por…

I always figured it was an engagement optimization thing—there were people mass producing content using popular characters and just throwing tons of stuff at the wall, and the ones that veered unsettling/bizarre wound up getting lots of engagement so they kept doubling down on it. That kind of feedback loop is certainly responsible for many other curious traits of online content that is circulated in algorithmically-curated feeds.

The tighter the loop between content creation (e.g. when you can generate unlimited content essentially for free) and the ability to measure its success (engagement), the more social media becomes a sort of genetic algorithm for optimizing content to be the most addictive possible at the expense of any other attribute.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Putting aside feelings on AI, and also putting aside worst case scenarios of the kind of content (which will happen regardless of what they promise), I think this is a terrible move for the brand. Content saturation works out very poorly for IP holders. The value of your brand reduces dramatically , and you reduce excitement for new releases. This is the company that had to walk back its plans to saturate streaming a…

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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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It only works until Mickey Mouse shows up on your Tiktok feed lynching an African American and doing a sieg heil salute. Are you sure Disney wants that or would not care about that??

The question is why it shows up on your Tiktok feed.

This is a good point. Instead of policing what trolls will use it for, the same AI should be able to detect racist content and prevent it from spreading

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

#267

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

Maybe the point is for it to not end well, like instead of waiting around they’re taking the helm and driving it into the ground early.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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post #144

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"there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged" Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate. The other thing I'd point out is that people kind of seem to forget this, but it isn't a requirement that AI video be gene…

Don't use a cucumber if you're going to be subtracting the green screen

Oh my.

I feel like we’re corrupting an innocent mind by explaining this to you.

They want the cucumber to be removed too buddy. Don’t worry about it OK.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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It only works until Mickey Mouse shows up on your Tiktok feed lynching an African American and doing a sieg heil salute. Are you sure Disney wants that or would not care about that??

The question is why it shows up on your Tiktok feed.

Look, I've gotten cartel beheadings and beatings on a YouTube search query for Jack Russell terriers.

Don't throw shade. If you haven't gotten "How the fuck did that get there?", consider yourself lucky I guess. Best I can figure, terriers have some unintentional shared vector space with much more unpleasant content.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged" Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate. The other thing I'd point out is that people kind of seem to forget this, but it isn't a requirement that AI video be gene…

> Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate.... Elsagate shows the level of effort that people are willing to put into this (a strange combination of laziness, but extreme effort poured into enabling that laziness). I still wonder what motivates the people behind that sort of thing. It'd be easy to understand if it were just por…

It's probably a lot of kids just being silly. Sure there are plenty of adult trolls, but whenever I see people bewildered at unruly online behavior, I think it's because they cannot see the age/maturity level of the troll. I can absolutely see why people would find this funny.
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