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Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by arethuza »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #242
kelnos wrote: post #207

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Perhaps my understanding here is lacking, but that doesn't sound good at all. Feels like if someone has some sort of cardiac event, or, worse, isn't breathing, by the time the ambulance gets there, they'll be dead, with too much brain death for any resuscitation effort to be worth it.

Cardiac events don’t usually work like that. You could, for example, get permanent damage if your heart attack isn’t treated within 30 minutes (as a guideline, the circumstances vary heavily). Even an aneurism doesn’t often act quicker than 20 minutes. But ya, sub 10 minute response times only happen in a hospital, sub 1 minute response times in intensive care, etc… Still, you feel like you are having a heart attack,…

Someone I used to know was found dead in bed with hid iPad showing he had been browsing for "what are the symptoms of a heart attack"...

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Post by [deleted] »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #157
vkou wrote: post #70

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The 2020, in hindsight was largely correct. COVID was a highly infectious disease, it put a lot of people in the hospital, and a lot of people in the morgue. Social distancing and wearing masks slowed its spread, until an effective, safe vaccine was developed. Horse paste was not a cure for it, and after further investigation it turns out that it only had a positive effect on patients who, in addition to having COVID…

> few details that were gotten wrong during the fog of war It’s fine to have your opinion but don’t dismiss others’ experiences and values. The extreme lockdowns caused irreparable, long-term harm to many people. You’re glossing over this as if it’s a minor error that anybody could’ve made, which is not correct. It is essentially a trolley problem. You value “extreme intervention that is statistically better overall…

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Post by prmph »

bonsai_spool wrote: post #164
blobbers wrote: post #124

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Well you clearly haven't looked into the opioid crisis. Wuh wuh.

> Well you clearly haven't looked into the opioid crisis. > Wuh wuh. Yes, I have not heard of the endocrinologists who perpetrated the opioid crisis in Canada .

You keep making weird arguments.

> I am yet to hear of a conspiracy where the doctor makes more money when their patients die.

This was a statement without qualifiers, and when someone has made a strong response to it, you now introduce the qualifier "endocrinologists...in canada"

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by mathgeek »

pugio wrote: post #48

I can speak to this. I recently joined a community first responder association (I've always wanted to know what to do in case of a medical emergency) and was shocked to hear the members' horror stories of how long it can take an ambulance to arrive. Like the author, I grew up with the narrative "in trouble, call the ambulance, they'll scream through the streets to get to you in moments". That might still be true wher…

Although we're a world away from each other, thank you for what you do. I greatly appreciate it.

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Post by animal531 »

laszlojamf wrote: post #113
prmph wrote: post #37

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Is it recommended to take or give aspirin ASAP before the EMTs arrive? If so, I wonder if the dad took it.

Apparently it's no longer recommended, since it could also be an aortic rupture, and aspirin would make it worse. https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/should-i-take-an...

I googled a bit and I'm not sure I would follow the new advice simply because it totally depends on getting help to you fast enough such that they can determine if its a heart attack or something else.

In the writer's case that help never came, so personally if I had to choose I'd rather go with the risk of guessing the symptoms wrong and making things some percentage worse vs a possible death.

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Post by dnlzro »

samdoesnothing wrote: post #63

Such a tragedy, and I'm really not surprised it happened in Canada. Our healthcare system here is utter garbage and there isn't really any political will to do anything about it because "it's better than the Americans at least" (it's not). I don't buy that it's underfunded either, it's just sorely mismanaged and nobody wants to build or grow. Even a child could tell you if you increase the population of a country by…

What makes you draw that connection between climate policy and a lack of new hospital/healthcare construction projects?

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

bsder wrote: post #258
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #235

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I didn’t say that properly worn N95 masks don’t work. I said it was stupid to have a mask mandate when most people wore ineffective cloth masks and even then didn’t cover their nose. I said it was equally dumb to require masks on airplanes and then everyone take them off at the same time while eating.

Deflection and obfuscation when told to produce evidence. As always. Standard anti-vax. Sigh. > I said it was stupid to have a mask mandate when most people wore ineffective cloth masks and even then didn’t cover their nose. This was mostly true because "wearing a mask" became a partisan political issue so half the country wouldn't even try to be responsible. Even if you didn't want to wear a mask, not getting togeth…

> But that doesn't matter to people like you. It was never about evidence and facts anyway.

Well first you are getting triggered without reading anything I said twice. I Mentioned in the first comment that I had virus induced asthma and I had every vaccine imaginable and I get the flu vaccine every year.

How am I “deflecting”? I mentioned on the first reply about how dumb and ineffectual the mask mandates were and within a year of the vaccines being available, the federal government bodies themselves walked back the claims of effectiveness of the Covid vaccine effectiveness - ie that they don’t prevent COVID they lessen the symptoms. Exactly what are you arguing?

Are you really arguing that wearing cloth masks worked? These were not the anti mask crowd that wore cloth masks, they were the ignorant crowd. There are still a few people I see today wearing cloth masks and not covering their nose. That is stupud. Are you arguing that the US government walked back the claims of the effectiveness of COVID from it prevents COVID to reduced the symptoms and you would need a booster in 6 months well after the evidence showed that to be true and other countries health departments admitted it?

See also vaccine mandates. I took a cruise in December 2021 where everyone was suppose to be vaccinated. However, if I had just shown that I had the J and J one shot that February 10 months beforehand, that would have been sufficient even though by then everyone knew that the effectiveness wore off in six months and a booster (which I did have) was needed.

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Post by Benjamin_Dobell »

kelnos wrote: post #207
gpt5 wrote: post #191

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Melbourne has an excellent ambulance response time (defined from the moment 000 call is received to when the first ambulance resource arrives on scene): * Average Code 1 response time: 12 minutes 47 seconds * Code 1 responses within 15 minutes: 77.2% * Number of Code 1 first responses: 12,375 This places Melbourne among the faster councils in the state, and well ahead of the statewide average response time. Source: T…

Perhaps my understanding here is lacking, but that doesn't sound good at all. Feels like if someone has some sort of cardiac event, or, worse, isn't breathing, by the time the ambulance gets there, they'll be dead, with too much brain death for any resuscitation effort to be worth it.

Melbourne is one of the largest cities in the world by urban sprawl. It is very spread out. I live 85 km from Melbourne CBD, and am officially still considered part of Melbourne. Well, there isn't an "official" boundary per se. My council is considered a council of Melbourne, but I'm also the last suburb in this direction. (Yes, Melbourne's Covid lockdowns applied to us.)

When my wife and I ended up delivering my youngest daughter at home. (Because they'd sent us away from hospital 30 minutes earlier). I think the ambulance must have taken around 10-15 minutes to arrive. Granted, I don't have a great memory of it, lots of Adrenalin, a bit of a blur. They arrived in time to cut the cord. Fortunately, the phone dispatcher stayed on the line and provided me with instructions the entire time.

Just to clarify, I think the dispatch time was reasonable, I'm not at all upset with the ambulance service. The hospital — different story.

P.S. My daughter is 2 now. 100% fine, fortunately.

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Post by jredwards »

twodave wrote: post #83

I feel this, but in reverse. My son could be dead, but he’s not. He was born on the floor of a trailer park apartment, not breathing. His birth mother’s partner called 911, who dispatched an ambulance. All rescue units for his zone were already busy. An ambulance returning from the nearby hospital to another zone heard the call over the radio and happened to be passing by. The hospital was expecting a DOA, but the pa…

I cannot even imagine the horror and the relief. I imagine if I were those paramedics, getting a card or a picture from that kid would make my whole year.
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