The funny thing is these heavy handed tactics don’t scale. ICE’s own statistics show that deportations are down from the Biden Administration’s numbers last year. So what’s the point? To scare people? To set a precedent? To normalize civil rights abuses? Any right-leaning people who support this should understand that it could easily be used against them.
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It used to be cv dazzle [0] is 15 years young. But its questionable if it works anymore. Theres also a bunch of of digital camo, most seem to target IR cameras [1] here's a homebrew version. [0] https://adam.harvey.studio/cvdazzle [1] https://www.macpierce.com/the-camera-shy-hoodie
> It used to be cv dazzle [0] is 15 years young. But its questionable if it works anymore. I fed all the CV Dazzle demo pictures into some free Amazon facial recognition demo a few years ago. It was a pretty shitty demo, but the makeup didn't even slow it down. It had no trouble at all finding the faces, assigning ages or genders, or locating facial features. And once you've located the features, you're going to have…
That makes sense, the CV dazzle styles for designed for a specific algorithm that went out of use around a decade ago.
There have been some updated styles for CNN based models, but never tried them, the originals did work back in the day
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Please don't fulminate on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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I checked the State of California website for REAL ID eligibility before I wrote my above comment, and it confirms that people with temporary legal immigration status are eligible for REAL ID cards, specifically mentioning DACA recipients as an example of a category of people who are eligible. This is exactly the sort of thing I think should not be allowed by the federal framework governing REAL IDs, non-permanent re…
You're effectively saying non-permanent residents should be prohibited from using commercial flight to move around the giant country that is the US. I'm not sure if that's your intention.
I've personally flown domestic commercial flights in at least two foreign countries (China and Mexico), that I have no legal permanent residency in, using the same American passport I used as ID to enter these countries to begin with; and there was no issue. I don't even know what the Chinese or Mexican equivalent of a REAL ID might be like. I'm sure the US could create a similar legal ID framework for domestic air travel.
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75% of ICE detainees have no criminal convictions, per their own stats. This isn't goalpost shifting. Immigration is a civil issue in the US, full stop. Immigration courts are administrative courts, not Title III criminal courts. You are obviously a brand new bot account so I will mute you and move on.
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I expected a lot more pushback on here for calling this out as terrorism than I got… I took a several month hiatus from this site and before I left it was all “you’re just being hyperbolic, Trump is just going to enforce the immigration laws exactly as written.” It seems that nearly all of those people have rethought their opinions in light of recent events- which I guess/hope bodes well for the chances of our countr…
The unfortunate reality is that lots of those people were agents of propaganda, such as Russian bots. The goal was to get the authoritarian elected and the ball rolling - so they're all gone now.
Seems very plausible but how can we be sure of that? There definitely were two groups, one had thoughtful counterpoints, and also histories of insightful comments on other topics, and could usually be persuaded eventually with some extended discussion. The other group had usually no post history and literally just posted things like “cry harder libtard.”
The latter were probably just bots/scripts but I’ve often thought it hilarious to wonder what their lives are like if they were real people that spent their day responding “cry harder” to genuine concerns over human rights violations and atrocities. Do their partners and family know about it? Do they have some sort of personal narrative that makes them a hero for being like that? Is that just how they relax and blow off steam after, what I can only assume was a long hard day of strangling hookers and shooting puppies?
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#270The absolutely outrageous thing is that apparently they are instructed to ignore all other evidence of citizenship if that app says someone is not a citizen. So even if you have your birth certificate ready, doesn't matter. This is completely lawless. From the article: > He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and…
Birth certificates and driver's licenses can be and are routinely faked by everyone from high school students to foreign agents. Faces cannot be faked.
You're making the unreasonable assumption of good faith on the part of the app developers.
It could be designed to accurately distinguish citizens from noncitizens, or it could be connected to a database of online agitators, or picking out facial features of targeted minorities without regard to their personal identity, or some combination of all of these and worse. You don't know.