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AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Somehow, my very first email, Hotmail (which was the only option when I got it really) is the only one from the 90s that is still kicking.

Yahoo! Mail is still working

That’s true. I mean it does get hacked every week, but it does still function.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Is this why Criterion streaming quality is so poor? It’s completely unacceptable for a service that is supposed to pride itself on loving movies and preserving them. Sometimes the scene will be dark and I will descend into some sort of weird 8 bit pixel world.

Is there any streaming option with non dogshit quality?

Vimeo isn't dogshit. In fact it's one of the only quality ones I've found which also support HDR / Dolby Vision.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Vimeo is the really interesting case for me, because they are the white label hosting providers for a large number of niche streaming services -- Criterion Channel comes to mind, for example. Evernote failing is sad but lower on indirect effects. Vimeo going down would leave a noticeable hole in the streaming world.

Vimeo won’t “go down” anytime soon. It might get worse/more expensive, but it’s not in imminent danger. And it’s also not the only white-label provider around, either.

Yes, there are alternatives. Nonetheless, the niche streamers I'm thinking of would find it a moderate burden to move to a different provider and they're operating on slim margins as is.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Vimeo is the really interesting case for me, because they are the white label hosting providers for a large number of niche streaming services -- Criterion Channel comes to mind, for example. Evernote failing is sad but lower on indirect effects. Vimeo going down would leave a noticeable hole in the streaming world.

Is this why Criterion streaming quality is so poor? It’s completely unacceptable for a service that is supposed to pride itself on loving movies and preserving them. Sometimes the scene will be dark and I will descend into some sort of weird 8 bit pixel world.

Yes, yes it is. And there was some sort of bug that pushed the top quality down to 720p last month.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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I wonder if that's got lost in translation somewhere. I can understand not having on-call operations teams (an anti-pattern) but not having anyone on call at any time seems unlikely. Unless they mean to say its part of all devs job expectations and not a paid extra.

>but not having anyone on call at any time seems unlikely. Bending Spoons is Milan based and most of Europe has very strong right-to-disconnect laws. It's not really uncommon here to not have anyone on call unless you're some big multinational.

On calls are also the norm in Europe.

We get time and money compensation for that.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Is there any streaming option with non dogshit quality?

With Netflix, there are never visible artifacts, play/pause always works within a second. I am sure I'm not always getting HD but I wouldn't call it dogshit. All the other streaming services though, random hiccups are common, and the UI is slow enough that it's not just play/pause, it often takes 30 seconds just to resume what I was previously watching if I closed the browser tab.

> With Netflix, there are never visible artifacts

Uwotm8. Any sufficiently dark scene will have artifacts out the wazoo.

Not to mention other stuff like subtitles mentioning the wrong spoken language (ie. the character is speaking French, but the subtitle say they're speaking English), the UI unloads after some time, and the only action you can take is to start the video (you can't go back), the button for info when hovering over a card doesn't work half time time, video controls disappear at the end of an episode while transitioning to the next (the 'next episode' button is present and animating, but you can't pause the video at the credits in that moment), etc... In short, the UI is shit and so is the video quality.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Vimeo won’t “go down” anytime soon. It might get worse/more expensive, but it’s not in imminent danger. And it’s also not the only white-label provider around, either.

For customer facing streaming sites they also don't seem to be the clear default choice. I think dropout.tv is one of the few "secondary streaming services" to still be with Vimeo (and with the strong overlap in their networks I'm sure they got a good deal), while many other ones like Nebula evaluated them but went with other providers. It looks like the majority of their business is in employee training portals for…

I dug in a bit and did a little research. Criterion and Dropout, as mentioned, use Vimeo. So does Arrow's streaming service (cult films, mostly). From there on in it gets even more fringe: Taskmaster (the British game show) has a streaming service built on Vimeo, the Z-movie titans Troma and Full Moon Features use Vimeo, and so on. So not insanely crucial but I still think it's a better world in which those services can keep doing what they do.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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It is easy to miss a subscription for something on a bill when it is less than £30. I had a match.com subscription I had forgotten about for about 7 years. That business model is what a lot of tech companies actually bank on that why they require a credit card on a free sign up.

It's only easy to miss if you're irresponsible. Having enough (some would say, "more than enough") money makes being irresponsible less painful.

The way you are using irresponsible is perverse. e.g. Being Irresponsible in this context would be remortgaging your house, while unemployed and using all the money to buy gadgets.

Forgetting that you have a small amount deducted for a service you are no longer using, isn't. It is minor oversight.

The way that language is abused by people when it comes to these sorts of subjects is bordering on semantic manipulation. Which in itself is a form of deceit.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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I always look at the AOLTimeWarner merger as the thing that broke them, distracting them at the moment they should've been prepping to roll out broadband. I also look at that merger through the lens of "don't fight a land war in Asia" in terms of breaking empires -- "don't let your company acquire Warner Bros.".

AOL did exactly the right thing. They knew their stock was overvalued and did some shady accounting to prop their stock up until the acquisition and it immediately crashed. How could they “get into broadband”? They weren’t going to be able to create the last mile infrastructure. We see how that worked out for Google. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/googl...

They couldn't buy the last mile, but they could have gone for an infrastructure play. You buy your broadband from the local phone or cable company, and they give you an AOL email account, the default portal is aol.com, they nudge you towards the all-in-one AOL client, etc. The local cable companies don't have to figure out anything but being a dumb pipe, and they can get a revenue stream less coupled to selling overpriced dialup. (They did have a "bring your own connection" plan at some point, but it was probably an easier sell to include it as part of a $75/month DSL/cable subscription rather than as an independent line item.

Maybe use their temporary dial-up riches to line up long-term rights to premium content. I suspect before YouTube took off, nobody knew the potential for online video, and they could have probably locked in contracts at very low prices.

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