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Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by wpm »

ako wrote: post #142
poisonborz wrote: post #55

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"Ordinary people" wouldn't care about anything above even an M1 CPU. The post is about the iPad Pro. The target audience would care about having the software features that macOS has.

Not true, it’s a pretty good machine to edit videos on, extra cpu/gpu power is welcome there. I connect it to an external monitor, keyboard and mouse and use Final Cut Pro to edit videos. On holidays I can connect my action cam to the iPad, download the videos and edit them, without having to bring a laptop.

Yeah… but you had to bring an iPad?

I’d choose the laptop every time as I can do all of that in addition to using a non-bullshit browser if I need to do something online.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by technofiend »

varispeed wrote: post #153
overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

I bought iPad Pro M4 and I am yet to find a use case for it. Combined with non-secure cloud backup in the UK, I see it as a toy device. Watch YouTube, casually browse web (I am yet to install VPN). So far the most use I had with it was recording meetings, so that later I can relisten. If I was able to run Ubuntu on it or even macOs - that would have been a different story...

It's $10,000 worth of tires on a $500 car. IOS is so crippled, it's complete overkill.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by sysguest »

walterbell wrote: post #237
dstroot wrote: post #169

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Second CPU idea is brilliant. I’d buy an iPad for second screen, second CPU and occasional plane/hotel Netflix/Youtube.

Mac Mini = iPad minus screen, minus iOS restrictions, with Apple Silicon and optional 10GbE wired.

damn I hope apple will make a "iSurface Air" laptop

macbook air + multitouch + apple pen

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Post by asimovDev »

neckro23 wrote: post #108
bluescrn wrote: post #86

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iOS doesn't even make for a very good YouTube machine, you need uBlock Origin for that.

Psst, you can get uBlock Origin (lite) for Safari now. Works pretty well.

i don't think it works with youtube. i am too lazy to sideload personally, so I just use an albanian vpn in mullvad.

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Post by dapperdrake »

overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

Wrote some JavaScript on an iPhone 13 with a Bluetooth keyboard, because there was no other option.

Pen and paper are faster.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by pjmlp »

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #199
overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

There's also the issue of iOS virtual memory limitations. Whereas macOS lets apps use swap space (duh), on iOS apps will be killed if their memory use is too high and they move into the background. (And possibly if it's too high while they're in the foreground, idk.) Which means you can't leave apps open in the background — they might be killed at any moment. And this makes true productivity basically impossible.

It is incredible what Mac OS 8 could achieve within the limitations of an iBook. /s

iPad OS limitations are artificially imposed to not canabalize the laptop sales.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by pjmlp »

someNameIG wrote: post #250
varispeed wrote: post #153

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I bought iPad Pro M4 and I am yet to find a use case for it. Combined with non-secure cloud backup in the UK, I see it as a toy device. Watch YouTube, casually browse web (I am yet to install VPN). So far the most use I had with it was recording meetings, so that later I can relisten. If I was able to run Ubuntu on it or even macOs - that would have been a different story...

My cheap Samsung tablet can do all that with a low powered exonous chip, and when it gets Android 16 it will be able to run a Linux VM. I don't know why Apple is putting full M series chips in their iPads but limit the software they can run. Either open it up to desktop apps or just put a cheaper A series chip in them.

They want to force people to buy two devices, people have to check that outside specific countries, Apple doesn't have the market share that they think they do.

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Post by ragazzina »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #239
ragazzina wrote: post #227

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> Just dock your iPad in the office The fact that you can't turn off the iPad screen while it's docked drives me crazy.

You can? As long as you have keyboard/mouse (which the Magic Keyboard qualifies as)

Can you teach me how to do that? Every single Google result (and my own experience) say you can't.

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Post by pjmlp »

vessenes wrote: post #98

For the haters here - Apple sells roughly 2x as many iPads as Macs (including MacBooks). Roughly as many iPad Pros as laptops. I've cycled through using an iPad Pro as my main device on and off over the years - particularly the cellular modem has been a draw. For coding, they're terrible, as they are for longer form writing. I've ultimately shrunk down to the small size and use it as a kindle/gaming replacement. I th…

Yes, yet I doubt 90% of those users will care about Metal 4 real time raytracing capabilities, for example.

Leaving the 10% for those that actually play such games, assuming they happen to land.

Re: iPad Pro with M5 chip

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Post by pjmlp »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #43
wlesieutre wrote: post #32

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It's a useful device if you're an artist, if you're a developer the best thing you can do with it is buy the cellular model and use it as a very thin VNC client

There's a whole spectrum of use cases between artist and software developer. Honestly most people that I see at work just use Office software, web browser, and Teams.

None of that requires the power of an M5.
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