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Re: Apps SDK

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Post by grugagag »

echelon wrote: post #141
notatoad wrote: post #137

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i can't imagine that users will be interested in asking chatGPT to ask zillow things, or ask chatGPT to ask canva to do things. that's a clunky interface. i can see users asking chatGPT to look up house prices, or to generate graphics, but they're not going to ask for zillow or canva specifically. and if the apps are trusting ChatGPT to send them users based on those sort of queries, it's only a matter of time before…

Every company should see OpenAi as a threat. They absolutely will come for you when the time comes. It's just like Google and websites, but much more insidious. If they can get your data, they'll subsume your function (and revenue stream).

That and the erosion in privacy make OpenAI somehthing to be very vigilant about.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by majormajor »

NBJack wrote: post #231
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #224

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Even when my phone is in my hand I'll use voice for a number of commands, because it's faster.

I'd love to know the kind of phone you're using where the voice commands are faster than touchscreen navigation. Most of the practical day to day tasks on the Androids I've used are 5-10 taps away from a lock screen, and get far less dirty looks from those around me.

My favorite voice command is to set a timer.

If I use the touchscreen I have to:

1 unlock the phone - easy, but takes an active swipe

2 go to the clock app - i might not have been on the home screen, maybe a swipe or two to get there

3 set the timer to what I want - and here it COMPLETELY falls down, since it probably is showing how long the last timer I set was, and if that's not what I want, I have to fiddle with it.

If I do it with my voice I don't even have to look away from what I'm currently doing. AND I can say "90 seconds" or "10 minutes" or "3 hours" or even (at least on an iPhone) "set a timer for 3PM" and it will set it to what I say without me having to select numbers on a touchscreen.

And 95% of the time there's nobody around who's gonna give me a dirty look for it.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by WanderPanda »

anal_reactor wrote: post #151
munk-a wrote: post #125

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I have yet to see a chat agent deployed that is more popular than tailored browsing methods. The most charitable way to explain this is that the tailored browsing methods already in place are the results of years of careful design and battle testing and that the chat agent is providing most of the value that a tailored browsing method would but without any of the investment required to bring a traditional UX to fruit…

> the tailored browsing methods already in place are the results of years of careful design and battle testing Have you ever worked in a corporation? Do you really think that Windows 8 UI was the fruit of years of careful design? What about Workday? > but it is bizarre that so many businesses seem to be discarding battle tested UXes for chatbots Not really. If the chatbot is smart enough then chatbot is the more natu…

Alarm is a good example of an “output only” task. The more inputs that need to be processed the less a pure chatbot interface is good (think lunch bowl menus, shopping in general etc.)

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by 3s »

stackedinserter wrote: post #255
sert_121 wrote: post #246

It's interesting to see how chatgpt is becoming more and more of a starting point of the web exploration, at which they're like, why even bother searching at this point, we'll just have default workflows for maps, buy (integration of stripe already marks it), booking airlines etc, which covers so much basic stuff people would do anyways. The biggest bottleneck for this for the past two years imo wasn't the models, bu…

The main showstopper here is trust. I just can't let anything AI make decisions that have consequences, like spending money, buying anything, planning vacations, flights etc. It's so bad now (I've just tried) that I'm not sure if it will ever gain my trust.

not to mention the privacy concerns associated with connecting my entire life to OpenAI or Anthropic. If you have the memory feature enabled, it's scary how much ChatGPT knows about you already and can even infer implicit thoughts and patterns about you as a person.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by zzo38computer »

MaxPock wrote: post #42

This is honestly useful. "Find me hotels in Capetown that have a pool by the beach .Should cost between 200 dollars to 800 dollars a night "

I would not want to use LLMs for such a thing like that. Something like SQL queries or other kind of computer codes would be better. You would have to read the documentation, but it can be specified more precisely and more accurately. If you have a local program that can manage these queries (and then convert them to the remote service's format; a service could provide a file to specify the schema and the estimated cost of different fields) and interact with multiple services (including local files), then that will be better, without having to worry about problems with OpenAI, require as much power that OpenAI uses, more privacy violations than is necessary, etc.

However, it might be useful for people who do want to use that instead.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ViscountPenguin wrote: post #221
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #147

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> conception makes sense iff you believe in ChatGPT as the universal user interface of the future Out of curiosity, why iff?

"iff" means "if and only if". It's common in mathematics.

Correct. I’m asking why this SDK makes sense ChatGPT becomes a universal interface. Why isn’t it useful for intermediate applications?

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by totallymike »

sert_121 wrote: post #246

It's interesting to see how chatgpt is becoming more and more of a starting point of the web exploration, at which they're like, why even bother searching at this point, we'll just have default workflows for maps, buy (integration of stripe already marks it), booking airlines etc, which covers so much basic stuff people would do anyways. The biggest bottleneck for this for the past two years imo wasn't the models, bu…

I dismay at the possibility of this happening. What’s the point of an internet at all if one company controls, filters, and governs our entire usage of it?

I understand an argument can be made that google is doing similar, but at least you can still search and end up on an actual site, rather than just play telephone via chatgpt. This concept is horrifying for so many reasons.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by heavyset_go »

sert_121 wrote: post #246

It's interesting to see how chatgpt is becoming more and more of a starting point of the web exploration, at which they're like, why even bother searching at this point, we'll just have default workflows for maps, buy (integration of stripe already marks it), booking airlines etc, which covers so much basic stuff people would do anyways. The biggest bottleneck for this for the past two years imo wasn't the models, bu…

Just like I won't trust voice assistants to make purchases for me, or make decisions that actually matter, there is no way in hell that I'm letting an LLM be able to charge my credit card, let alone book flights for me lol
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