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Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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> Today, we're excited to announce just that: the private beta of Email Sending, a new capability that allows you to send transactional emails directly from Cloudflare Workers. So many comments here assumed from the title they're offering a hosted email service, they aren't, they are announcing their own Sendgrid.

That's exactly why I'm excited. I could really use this.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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post #231
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Great move. Will probably switch to it immediately from Sendgrid as soon as it goes GA. Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects.

Zeptomail by zoho has been reliable for me and extremely reasonably priced: https://www.zoho.com/zeptomail/

This is really cheap, is the deliverability good?

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#263
From Zeno Rocha, CEO, Resend -

  I just shared this with the team:

  Today, Cloudflare entered the email sending market.

  While I didn't expect this to happen today, it didn't come as a surprise either. It was never a question of if Cloudflare would add an email sending API, but when. Back in 2022, they introduced Email Routing, and it was only a matter of time until they added the sending part.

  Some people will see this and will want to migrate off Resend, others will say we're dead. The reality is that they are after our target audience, otherwise they wouldn't create an example showing how to use React Email on their announcement post.

  Still, I truly believe this is good news. Here's why:

  When Cloudflare introduces millions of users to their email API, they're creating our next users. Developers will run into limitations and will want more from an email service. They will need bulk sending, advanced templates, no-code editors, and a lot more. That's where we step in.

  Email is not a winner-takes-all kind of market, and that's why we've been able to enter such a competitive space and still thrive. Competition is good because it forces the best product to win.

  We cannot let our guards down, and lose our sense of urgency. The bar is higher for us right now, but if there's a team that knows how to increase the bar, that team is this.
(https://x.com/zenorocha/status/1971260006654742780)

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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post #231

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Zeptomail by zoho has been reliable for me and extremely reasonably priced: https://www.zoho.com/zeptomail/

This is really cheap, is the deliverability good?

Yes, honestly been much more reliable than my previous provider (mailgun). Their IPs were constantly getting on spam blocklists with yahoo and hotmail. No issues with zepto so far, been using about 9 months.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the internet was worse without Cloudflare It had much more freedom. Currently it's up to Cloudflare to decide whether you will read that article or not. Tomorrow some stupid law will mandate certain ideas to be hidden from children[1] and Cloudflare will happily comply. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

How is this not a problem with the law rather than a problem with Cloudflare?

Because human nature is what it is. The best way to eat better isn't to be a better person, it's to not keep junk food at the house. It's not Cloudflare's fault that they're successful, but it's now everyone's problem that they're an easy throat for governments to choke.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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> After researching the topic it turned out that the internet now runs on an IP reputation system. Major email services like gmail assume that anything sent from unknown IPs is malicious. You have to buy/rent a dedicated IP address (that you'll be able to keep long term), and it warm it up by gradually increasing mail volume over a few months to weeks. But once you have, deliverability shoudl be fine. I think the big…

Like the parent have ran Email servers for many years now. If you get a bad IP, as long as you get the DKIM records right, over time it will 'warm' up the IP. And the more you use the email on that IP and NOT spam people. The IP will warm up. Make sure you actually own that IP!!! It will become valuable.

Key point - own the IP. We own our IPs and we also buy elastic IPs from AWS. The entire AWS subnet (it seems their entire address space) is universally garbage and unwarmable. Our own IPs have hummed along for years with zero issues.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Interesting development. Not really sure I trust Cloudflare on this one, the last time they tried this with "MailChannels" they got a bunch of people to use it and then killed it off a few months later. Still, their blog post was never updated to say the feature was removed: https://blog.cloudflare.com/sending-email-from-workers-with-...

MailChannels is a separate company from Cloudflare. At one point they offered a Workers integration, and Cloudflare blogged about it because we like to encourage such things. Unfortunately MailChannels later decided to discontinue their integration.

The new email product is built and operated by Cloudflare itself.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the internet was worse without Cloudflare It had much more freedom. Currently it's up to Cloudflare to decide whether you will read that article or not. Tomorrow some stupid law will mandate certain ideas to be hidden from children[1] and Cloudflare will happily comply. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

How is this not a problem with the law rather than a problem with Cloudflare?

It's both. In allowing Cloudflare to grow so big, we now have one huge universal button for governments to push. If instead all of these customers were dispersed over hundreds of different services from different countries, good luck with trying to keep them all in line with your specific country's whims.
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