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Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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Had to dig up this link, 1999 review[0]: "Google (www.google.com) is a pure search engine - no weather, no news feed, no links to sponsors, no ads, no distractions, no portal litter. Nothing but a fast-loading search site. Reward them with a visit." [0] https://i.redd.it/uea6u7c4oje31.jpg

How did they make any money at all without ads?

They didn't. That was the whole "Step 2 ???? Step 3 Profit" era.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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Can anyone reproduce this? When I search "Midjourney", I get an ad for Midjourney (from Midjourney), followed by Midjourney, the site. After that, I get the Midjourney Discord, the Midjourney subreddit, the Midjourney Wikipedia page, and then (inexplicably), another Midjourney ad. That seems about as good as it could be. Edit: I guess I should say that I do agree that the quality of Google Search is pretty poor these…

Same. On an android browser, not signed into any Google accounts. Got the legitimate result at the very top.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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They still get away with it as ‘only’ 1% complain and Google thinks they don’t matter. We built our entire company for that 1%.

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Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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Like many of you, I serve as IT support for family. Some of those family are beginning to slip cognitively, so I'd like to say: Fk google for doing this. You are confusing my relatives who cannot tell the difference between your ad-spam and actual links, and it is not an exaggeration to say that you are now taking advantage of old people. I'm trying to install adblockers (uBlock) and move them over to chatgpt when po…

> move them over to ChatGPT OpenAI has even more VC money to pay back than Google ever did. Practically all the large tech companies so far have turned to ads and monetizing users rather than charging enough to remain more neutral. I suspect one day, when you ask ChatGPT "Can you give me a link to mid journey", you'll instead probabilistically get a link to whichever competitor paid OpenAI for the best placement.

Just imagine all the gigawatts cooked to just serve ads via LLMs

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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i feel sometimes it's best for the company to stay private

The founders of the company still have a controlling stake in the business. External shareholders have little leverage. Going public gave Google a lot of nearly-free money to grow, and it's how you've gotten both Gmail and Google+. But more importantly, it allowed them to offer much higher total comp packages by issuing more stock on the go. I think they're prisoners of the stock market only insofar that if the stock…

>Going public gave Google a lot of nearly-free money to grow, and it's how you've gotten both Gmail

Gmail launched in April 2004, and the company went public in August 2004, so what you said is not literally true.

> and Google+

Thanks for the chuckle.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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> move them over to ChatGPT OpenAI has even more VC money to pay back than Google ever did. Practically all the large tech companies so far have turned to ads and monetizing users rather than charging enough to remain more neutral. I suspect one day, when you ask ChatGPT "Can you give me a link to mid journey", you'll instead probabilistically get a link to whichever competitor paid OpenAI for the best placement.

I'd say it's practically guaranteed. It would be wildly unprecedented to not follow up the amount of hype and fundraising in the LLM AI industry without a massive amount of enshittification following it. Even if improvements continue for years we might already be near the peak of LLM usefulness because all of greedy and abusive dark patterns are sure to follow once the manic land grab settles down.

This is one of the reasons why I’m getting familiar with self-hosting. Local models are improving shockingly fast. I use Gemma3 27B for generating summaries of podcast transcripts, for instance.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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post #97

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That didn't last long till they added paid results but at least they highlighted the paid results from the organic results... Those were they days when they used to have the motto of not being Evil. Accordingly, now, they are.

>they used to have the motto of not being Evil They still do have it.

...at the very end of Google's Code of Conduct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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I think it's a mistake to think of these cycles as inevitable, and that it's guaranteed that some small fry will disrupt the current giants. Yes, they may have happened in the past, but large companies are much more cognizant of the cycles of disruption now than they were 30 or 40 years ago. Microsoft was a behemoth in the late 80s and they're currently number 2 market cap in the world. Many folks on this board may b…

These cycles have been going on a lot longer than the last 40 years. Everything eventually dies. Rome used to rule the world; sure it took about a thousand years, but it ultimately didn't last.

I fully accept the heat death of the universe will eventually take down Microsoft, but I don't think that's what the comment I was responding to was really about.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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Like many of you, I serve as IT support for family. Some of those family are beginning to slip cognitively, so I'd like to say: Fk google for doing this. You are confusing my relatives who cannot tell the difference between your ad-spam and actual links, and it is not an exaggeration to say that you are now taking advantage of old people. I'm trying to install adblockers (uBlock) and move them over to chatgpt when po…

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