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Re: Just let me select text

#261

> I’m lonely. Like everyone-ish else. Naturally, I’m on Bumble. ... alright I see... >"(Because Tinder is a rape-friendly lure trap.)" I just sat down. Who the hell starts a conversation off like this?

I was surprised to see nobody else commenting on that. A wild start to a post.

Re: Just let me select text

#262

Given that this page has the following styles which aren't applied anywhere else on the blog: body { -webkit-user-select: none; -webkit-touch-callout: none; -moz-user-select: none; -ms-user-select: none; user-select: none; } I think it's safe to assume that being unable to select text on this page is not unintentional, as several comments here assume, nor "ironic", but an intentional effort to demonstrate how annoyin…

People's stupidity will always surprise me. I mean... it's such a basic irony trick given the subject matter that it doesn't even deserve to be mentioned, let alone questioned.

Re: Just let me select text

#263

Given that this page has the following styles which aren't applied anywhere else on the blog: body { -webkit-user-select: none; -webkit-touch-callout: none; -moz-user-select: none; -ms-user-select: none; user-select: none; } I think it's safe to assume that being unable to select text on this page is not unintentional, as several comments here assume, nor "ironic", but an intentional effort to demonstrate how annoyin…

Are people these days so dense (i.e. stupid) they couldn't figure out it was a joke by the author?

Being unable to get the joke here implies that someone is obtuse or unable to grasp social cues (ie autism-adjacent), not that they are stupid.

Which is further confirmed by the fact that HN's audience skews towards the former and away from the latter.

Re: Just let me select text

#264
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In uBlock: *##html, body, body *:style(user-select: auto !important)

Wouldn't recommend applying this _everywhere_; the `body *` selector may have a significant performance impact on some pages.

Not any more. All modern browser engines read right to left.

Re: Just let me select text

#265
post #43

As a web dev, I fully agree with this, but with a huge exception: clickable text. Anything that is meant to be read as content should absolutely, without fail, be selectable and copyable (assuming appropriate permissions). But stuff like tab headers, buttons, or even text-sparse tiles - things meant for the user to click on - can, and usually should , prevent text selection. It is super annoying to be clicking back a…

100% disagree. Not everyone is fluent in every language, and not every website works perfectly with the browser's translator. There will be situations where people will want to translate that ONE word that is actually in a button or tab, and isn't selectable because someone thought they knew better.

In Firefox my tabs have text, and I frequently rearrange tabs with my cursor. I think this is a pretty common usage pattern (I do it on a daily basis). It would be an enormous pain if most of the area on the tab turned my arrow cursor into an I-beam cursor that I couldn't move the tab with. I checked Chrome and it looks like the tabs work the same way.

While having the text in the tabs is very useful to know what is under them, I don't think I've ever needed to actually copy the tab text. It would be a huge UX downgrade for me (and I think most people) if the tab text was selectable.

Some people might need it to be selectable for accessibility reasons and there should be a toggle for that, but I don't think "absolutely all text everywhere is selectable" is a good default.

Re: Just let me select text

#266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are people these days so dense (i.e. stupid) they couldn't figure out it was a joke by the author?

I recently read something that stated we've never really had more than 30% of students in the US at a level of mathematical understanding where they can tell that 3/4ths and 0.75 are the same thing, conceptually. I cannot stop thinking about this; it honestly explains so much.

I would hope fervently that HackerNews would be subject to selection bias and would be an exception, but who knows.

Re: Just let me select text

#268

On my system I use a little script coupled to a key that lets you select a graphical area with text in it and it converts it into real text that is placed in the clipboard: #!/usr/bin/bash maim -us | tesseract --dpi 145 -l eng - - | xsel -bi [[ "$(xsel -ob)" ]] || (notify-send "No text found"; ohno) You wil have to install maim, tesseract and xsel for it to work. Edit: you can leave out the ohno which is just an audi…

I've heard of tesseract and xsel, but what is maim? Seems a bit hard to look up given that it's also a common word.

“maim (make image) takes screenshots of your desktop.” https://github.com/naelstrof/maim

Found it by searching through the official arch linux packages: https://archlinux.org/packages/ Could also have tried AUR if hadn’t found it there :)

Re: Just let me select text

#269

I must admit, one of my favorite recent-ish Android[1] features is that all text is made selectable in the app switcher using on-device OCR. Regardless of the app[2], you can just swipe up and start selecting text. [1] ...at least on the Google Pixel. [2] ...unless it's a banking app and it blocks permissions for screenshots and similar things.

This is my favorite feature on Android next to sideloading.

Re: Just let me select text

#270

I must admit, one of my favorite recent-ish Android[1] features is that all text is made selectable in the app switcher using on-device OCR. Regardless of the app[2], you can just swipe up and start selecting text. [1] ...at least on the Google Pixel. [2] ...unless it's a banking app and it blocks permissions for screenshots and similar things.

Yes, I just wanted to reply the same thing. It's a great feature for these use cases (albeit, I too would like to see more universal or friendlier approach to text-selectability in apps).

Additionally, the text copied in this manner can be instantly opened in Clipboard editor (at least on Google Pixel), and when selected again there, it offers even more contextual options, such as translate in one of your installed apps (like Deepl).

That way, you can translate the "non-selectable" text in a very few short taps.

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