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I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by WillPostForFood »

shirro wrote: post #252

I don't remember having "range anxiety" under S3 suspend on my old intel laptops. It just worked and they woke up reasonably reliably and quickly under linux if you had a regular thin and light with integrated graphics. I had an Apple intel laptop that might have been marginally faster returning to life but it basically just worked on either. The move to modern standby has been a mess. It seems to have improved a lot…

I think it is more lived experience than urban folklore - it definitely happens.

Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by mips_avatar »

shirro wrote: post #252

I don't remember having "range anxiety" under S3 suspend on my old intel laptops. It just worked and they woke up reasonably reliably and quickly under linux if you had a regular thin and light with integrated graphics. I had an Apple intel laptop that might have been marginally faster returning to life but it basically just worked on either. The move to modern standby has been a mess. It seems to have improved a lot…

As someone whose job was to improve Windows fundamentals this makes me really sad. I worked on making Windows respect modern standby better, and there just wasn't a whole lot of interest in making it work. The whole OS needs a lot of considered improvement, and it's not getting it.

Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by gbear605 »

shirro wrote: post #252

I don't remember having "range anxiety" under S3 suspend on my old intel laptops. It just worked and they woke up reasonably reliably and quickly under linux if you had a regular thin and light with integrated graphics. I had an Apple intel laptop that might have been marginally faster returning to life but it basically just worked on either. The move to modern standby has been a mess. It seems to have improved a lot…

I’d noticed recently that my Macbook was consistently being warm even when I hadn’t used it in hours and it was closed and unplugged. I wound up doing a clean up of a bunch of processes that might be running in the backend, and it was resolved. I believe in the end it was some daemon for a built-in app, the contacts app maybe.

Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by o11c »

shirro wrote: post #252

I don't remember having "range anxiety" under S3 suspend on my old intel laptops. It just worked and they woke up reasonably reliably and quickly under linux if you had a regular thin and light with integrated graphics. I had an Apple intel laptop that might have been marginally faster returning to life but it basically just worked on either. The move to modern standby has been a mess. It seems to have improved a lot…

I have never observably damaged a laptop in a bag, but I absolutely have had them burning-hot-to-the-touch after they decided not to sleep properly.

Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by franciscop »

shirro wrote: post #252

I don't remember having "range anxiety" under S3 suspend on my old intel laptops. It just worked and they woke up reasonably reliably and quickly under linux if you had a regular thin and light with integrated graphics. I had an Apple intel laptop that might have been marginally faster returning to life but it basically just worked on either. The move to modern standby has been a mess. It seems to have improved a lot…

I've had it happened, sure it was with Linux but it was scary taking out a fire brick from my bag and praying it was still working. I had been using Linux for 10+ years until the M1 came out, and for as much as I love Linux unfortunately I haven't looked back, the hardware is just that good.

When it's time to replace my M1 air, if the laptop is still working (I tend to replace when they break), I'll try to install Asahi Linux to see how it is. It feels a bit too experimental/me being too inexperienced with OS to risk it on my main computer.

Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by nogridbag »

mips_avatar wrote: post #262
shirro wrote: post #252

I don't remember having "range anxiety" under S3 suspend on my old intel laptops. It just worked and they woke up reasonably reliably and quickly under linux if you had a regular thin and light with integrated graphics. I had an Apple intel laptop that might have been marginally faster returning to life but it basically just worked on either. The move to modern standby has been a mess. It seems to have improved a lot…

As someone whose job was to improve Windows fundamentals this makes me really sad. I worked on making Windows respect modern standby better, and there just wasn't a whole lot of interest in making it work. The whole OS needs a lot of considered improvement, and it's not getting it.

Thanks for your effort. I still have one of those early ARM based Windows machines: HP Envy X2.

While I rarely use it, when I do the instant-on still works pretty flawlessly. That is after running a few hours of Windows updates!

I'm in the same boat as the article. I actually use a Macbook Air these days for coding instead of the usual MBP and the battery life still surprises me.

Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by izak30 »

franciscop wrote: post #266
shirro wrote: post #252

I don't remember having "range anxiety" under S3 suspend on my old intel laptops. It just worked and they woke up reasonably reliably and quickly under linux if you had a regular thin and light with integrated graphics. I had an Apple intel laptop that might have been marginally faster returning to life but it basically just worked on either. The move to modern standby has been a mess. It seems to have improved a lot…

I've had it happened, sure it was with Linux but it was scary taking out a fire brick from my bag and praying it was still working. I had been using Linux for 10+ years until the M1 came out, and for as much as I love Linux unfortunately I haven't looked back, the hardware is just that good. When it's time to replace my M1 air, if the laptop is still working (I tend to replace when they break), I'll try to install As…

My M1 is suffering from a bug where there is runaway SSD writes and I have to restart it every few days. I've learned so many coping techniques. I'd never call this the best hardware I've ever owned, that was a 2011 MBA.

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Post by sylens »

timpera wrote: post #7

I wish Framework offered a laptop with an ARM64 processor. I have a Surface Laptop 7 with a Snapdragon CPU on Windows 11 and it's been awesome so far. Insane battery life, especially in standby. I can reopen it after 48 hours and it only lost 3% of battery, while it stayed connected to WiFi and received notifications all along.

This is what I'm really waiting for.

Re: I'm spoiled by Apple Silicon but still love Framework

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Post by matthew-wegner »

sonofhans wrote: post #159
trueismywork wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just got a work Mac and I have spent around 20 years now on linux before it. I was making a list compared to KDE (not pros/cons just differences) It is still a work in progress since its only a couple of days since im using it. 1. No delete button. I know you can do Fn delete but It is more problematic. And I do use delete often. 2. System keeps important system stuff in Library directory in home. Do not do remove…

I feel your pain here; I remember my transition from Debian to MacOS. I’ve used DOS, Windows, Linux, and MacOS — each full-time for more than a decade. The switching pain is real, and some things still feel wrong to me after I got to love them on a prior OS. E.g., in Windows apps, menu items are keyboard-addressable by default. This is brilliant for accessibility, and for accustomed power users. MacOS has no _by defa…

> E.g., in Windows apps, menu items are keyboard-addressable by default. This is brilliant for accessibility, and for accustomed power users. MacOS has no _by default_ equivalent.

Cmd-Shift-? (really, Cmd-?)

You can begin using arrow keys from there, or start typing to search the menu items of the foreground app

You can also assign arbitrary hotkeys to any application's menu items in the OS system preferences

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