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Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by Arainach »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #153
jonathanstrange wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was evidence of voting machine fraud, though.

In almost every single jurisdiction? That would be an impressive fraud to pull off. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/06/us/politics/p... >More than 89 percent of counties in the United States shifted in favor of former President Donald J. Trump in the 2024 presidential election, according to a New York Times analysis of election results.

>89 percent of counties

Land doesn't vote. People vote. What percentage of the population live in those 89% of counties?

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Post by bambax »

rich_sasha wrote: post #169

UK around Brexit time thought kind of similar: let's keep the "riffraff" immigrants out by applying higher criteria. The narrative also changed this way: we don't want immigrants in general, but you , with your highly paid PhD-requiring job, you can go in, on a 2 year rolling basis. Then everyone's a winner, except for unwanted, unskilled labour. But a lot of skilled labour left anyway. Partly because the general atm…

This is probably a good thing for nations providing the bulk of high skilled labor, namely India and China. Their best and brightest will tend to leave less.

Much has been said about Trump, but his main quality is this: he's a foot-gun artist.

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Post by barrkel »

rayiner wrote: post #172
jacquesm wrote: post #27

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The democracy stopped functioning a while ago, this is just the bills being presented.

You’re using the term “democracy” in an Orwellian way. The people voted for the guy who promised mass deportations. There were signs and everything. Multiple surveys have found that, if everyone had voted, he would have won by an even larger margin. https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-elec... A non-functioning democracy would be if the people voted this way and mass deportations didn’t happen. Lik…

Democracy is little more than a mechanism for non-violent transfer of power among elites.

We rely on things other than democracy to protect minorities. Institutions, laws, restraints on power; things the committed democrat believes are unjust constraints on the Will of the People.

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Post by amelius »

penguin_booze wrote: post #208
kpybala wrote: post #124

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But remember: he was elected; by the people; for a second time . Let that all sink in.

In a true democracy the minority is not ignored, especially if it counts for like 49% of the population.

Otherwise it's just a dictatorship of the majority, which it is now.

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Post by 8note »

stogot wrote: post #232
rayiner wrote: post #187

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No, democracy is supposed to be two wolves and a sheep voting on who to eat for dinner. What you’re talking about are the anti-democratic measures the founders put in place because they didn’t trust democracy. Look, it’s hardly settled that “democracy” is a good thing. The founders didn’t think it was—they restricted the franchise to property owners, and provided for indirect election of the president and appointment…

Which is also why it is a Republic and not a democracy. I wonder why people continue to call it a democracy even when they know that it isn’t. I guess it is just a sticky name

its a union rather than a monarchy.

canada is a monarchy and a democracy.

usa is a union of republics and a democracy

they are different dimensions

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Post by rkomorn »

darth_avocado wrote: post #258
0xy wrote: post #226

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When their identically leveled peers earn $300k.

There is not a single company where US citizens that are identically leveled peers are paid $300k where H1bs are paid $120k. Places where citizens get paid $300k, H1Bs are making the same money because it’s illegal to to discriminate based on nationality or visa status when it comes to pay.

And, corollary: the places that pay their H1Bs crap also pay everyone else crap, because they are run by greedy people who try to tilt the entire business in their favor.

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Post by rendx »

acqbu wrote: post #237

President Donald Trump’s new $100,000 fee for high-skill visa holders only applies to new applicants — not current visa holders who may be on travel outside of the U.S. — according to a U.S. official granted anonymity to speak about the policy. Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/20/donald-trump-h1b-vi...

That may or may not be the intention, but the wording of the executive order doesn't convey that.

see e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45313274 in this thread

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Post by mystraline »

I'm going to keep banging on this website, of definitions of fascism. And also, for the time being, is also hanging in short form at the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC.

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

Labor Power is Suppressed

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

These are all elements of fascism, and is directly on display. We are living in a country being invaded by fascists from within the republican party.

And to my knowledge, no fascist government willingly cedes power. All have required extreme violence (aka war) to oust them. And most also have done so with Communist and Socialist allies (see Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, et merde).

In a way, it might be safer for the H1B's abroad to stay away. Wish I had an exit plan as well.

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