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Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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It gets worse... both the wife and (either their husband or a previous partner) have their own threads on kiwi farms and are closely tied to both Encyclopedia Dramatica and Ethan Ralph. There's videos posted of them showing signs of severe mental illness. https://0x0.st/KcyY.jpg

Saying this only because I'm probably speaking for a lot of people here, but: I have no idea what any of that means.

Kiwifarms is a forum for harassing people. Famously Near (the developer behind BSNES/Higan emulator) committed suicide in part due to the abuse he received from that forum. And people on kiwifarms celebrated his death.

Only reason I know of it is from the thread at the time on HN.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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So the post is really click bait and does not tell the whole story?

It’s a calculated appeal by a biased narrator (his wife) who knows how to exploit the anger and sympathies of a community that often doesn’t click links, read documents, or look for facts before passing judgment (Reddit)

This may be overly cynical. I suspect that she's getting her biased account from the only person she knows who is technically savvy: her husband. She accepts this uncritically, and that some very large fraction of the spin originates with him. Some stuff (like ignoring that the drug use violates probation) might be hers, but the rest probably isn't.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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> We also know from prosecutions in other statutes that the government will often prosecute a a broad crime with many separate sub-definitions of the various way you can break it, then refuse to tell you under which sub-definition you're being charged, meaning you have no way to know if the jury even were unanimously convicting for the same thing and no way to know what you're even defending against. Could you give s…

Yes, https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63291773/united-states-... . Navy sailor was convicted of possessing machine guns and destructive devices. The ATF for example put back together de-milled RPGs, which could be a destructive device However the statute says the following: (2) any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explos…

Thanks for the reference! For the convenience of anyone else reading, the appeals docket is at https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67566242/united-states-.... Note that there are two appeals briefs; it seems the defendant replaced their attorney at some point during the appeals process.

For what it's worth, I think this is the government's response to the argument you raise (on page 22 of the response brief, PDF page 30):

> Section 5845, captioned “[d]efinitions,” is a definitional provision, not a criminal prohibition. As relevant here, § 5845(b) defines the term “machinegun,” and § 5845(f) defines the term “destructive device.” These definitions do not create additional elements of the offenses charged under §§ 5861(d) and 922(o). Therefore, the government was not required to charge the applicable definition(s) in the indictment. See, e.g., Robbins, 476 F.2d at 30 (holding that an indictment under § 5861(d) need not refer to the definitions in § 5845 to “fairly notify a defendant of the charge against him”); United States v. Hoover, 635 F. Supp. 3d 1305, 1316 (M.D. Fla. 2022) (rejecting the argument that the government “was required to plead the specific facts supporting its contention that the [firearms] at issue fall within the definition of a machinegun”); cf. United States v. Pennington, 168 F.3d 1060, 1065 (8th Cir. 1999) (“The indictment’s failure to cite [18 U.S.C.] § 1346, a definitional provision, and to use its specific term, ‘honest’ services, does not mean no crime was charged.”).

And defendant's response, page 5:

> The question is whether the indictment “fully, directly, and expressly, without any uncertainty or ambiguity, set forth all the elements necessary to constitute the offence intended to be punished” and whether the indictment complied “with the necessity of alleging in the indictment all the facts necessary to bring the case” within the intent of the statute. United States v. Carll, 105 U.S. 611 (1881) (emphasis added). The government’s failure to give any specificity in the indictment cannot be remedied by wriggling as to whether the missing information can be considered an “element” or not. Even if the government were correct that the particular definition (or definitions) the prosecution is proceeding under does not change “elements,” it changes the “facts” underlying the scope of the statute.

I have no idea who is correct legally, and since oral arguments appear to have been held a few days ago I suppose I'll have to wait to see who is right.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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It gets worse... both the wife and (either their husband or a previous partner) have their own threads on kiwi farms and are closely tied to both Encyclopedia Dramatica and Ethan Ralph. There's videos posted of them showing signs of severe mental illness. https://0x0.st/KcyY.jpg

Saying this only because I'm probably speaking for a lot of people here, but: I have no idea what any of that means.

orchestrated harassment campaigns happening. I'm being intentionally vague on who is the perpetrator in this situation because usually its just a chaotic pileup with no reasonable persons involved.

My recommendation: ignore and swipe under the rug anything where KF is in play. Whatever it is, visibility feeds it.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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This is just extremely one sided. He intentionally sabotaged his ex employers computer systems, was hired to fix them, was caught as the original cause of the problem, fired again, then used a back door to take down their systems again. He plead guilty to this in 2014.

He was on probation and required to use monitoring software as a condition of being let out of jail early, he had a secret iphone he used to access the internet that was not monitored, so his probation was revoked. He wasn't arrested again, his probation was revoked.

The wife's account focuses on a ton of irrelevant details, the above is sufficient to explain the entire situation.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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I certainly sympathise, but actually don't find it at all surprising. Tor is totally used for criminal activity. That doesn't mean it is inherently a bad thing, or that it is this guy's fault, but he can't completely wash his hands off it. If bad guys use the postal service, it's not the postman's fault, but he has to cooperate with law enforcement if they demand that. I don't know about the US, but contempt of court…

> You can't refuse to submit evidence to court, including things like encryption keys or things only stored in your head

Out of curiosity, how does this work? If I claim I don't remember a particular password that I (provably) didn't enter for the past X months, how does the court force me to recall it? With an $8 wrench? Wouldn't that be cruel (if not unusual) punishment?

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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I'll steelman the unpopular position: I think sobriety is a reasonable condition of freedom for someone with psychiatric self-control issues, that have lead them to commit felonies in the past. Vandalizing your employer's infrastructure over a grudge is, I suggest, strong evidence of a major impulse control issue. It think it makes sense and is in the public interest , draconian as it is, that this person shouldn't b…

> I think sobriety is a reasonable condition of freedom for someone with psychiatric self-control issues, that have lead them to commit felonies in the past. Were he high on weed, maybe he'd not commit the felony in the first place. Yeah, banning him from alcohol is fine, from stimulants broadly - also OK, but weed? Honestly? How often, statistically speaking, does smoking weed make a person aggressive? While this pe…

Weed for normal people isn't a big deal, but weed for people on the cusp of mental illness or even just mental unwellness can exacerbate whatever issue they are facing.

Alcohol on the other hand mostly just knocks you out from doing anything too cerebral after you pass the ballmer peak. I say this as a person who prefers weed to alcohol 100x.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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This always happens though. Every time someone is thrown in a cage unjustly, the state tries to redirect us (yes, us, here in this forum and others like it) to look at other details of the situation, whether it's details of the person's political or personality or, in this case, details of this (also seemingly unjust) probation violation. Who cares if he smoked weed or installed a VM or evaded a government keylogger?…

I'll steelman the unpopular position: I think sobriety is a reasonable condition of freedom for someone with psychiatric self-control issues, that have lead them to commit felonies in the past. Vandalizing your employer's infrastructure over a grudge is, I suggest, strong evidence of a major impulse control issue. It think it makes sense and is in the public interest , draconian as it is, that this person shouldn't b…

One important thing to remember is parole is not freedom. He was still serving a sentence for his crime.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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As someone who works in this industry: we do ECU modification and repair and as such, have regular contact with the EPA. Our products all align with all required emissions regulation and testing, which is why we're allowed to continue selling them. If the EPA says jump, we ask how high. I say this because this cultural vibe of government agencies kicking in your door for doing innocuous shit needs to die already, tha…

You, you are an instance of the problem. For any given issue, subject, industry or niche there is always a you. And you are the enablers. Multiply by every equivalent idiot and niche and that's how you get the world in which some guy gets whacked for running a tor node. If not that it would be some other niche, maybe some guy importing gray market power equipment to the chagrin of the branded dealers would be getting…

> gets whacked for running a tor node.

'whacked' usually means killed. This guy was neither killed, nor jailed for 'running a tor node', but a bunch of more specifically bad, illegal shit that it would be misleading to describe this way.

The same way as describing destroying a bunch of an ex-employers data on-site causing thousands in loss is not a "workplace dispute".

> these are outcomes that nobody wants

which outcomes? these are outcomes no-one wants, but you've yet to prove they happen. It takes a lot of time to properly go through case details to determine abuse, it seems like you are very casually throwing around accusations.

> You might as well compare...

Why? they comply with the law, why does that make them 'big'? I'm sure the FBI has plenty resources to go after them, in fact, they have more to lose.

The 'one man shop' needs to comply with the law, however big or small they are.

> Who is law enforcement gonna try and abuse?

abuse? this guy says no-onw is kicking his door down, have you proof it changes for smaller setups?

they go after whoever they think is breaking the law, and not complying (providing relevant licences, proof of testing) flags you for that. Are you suggesting the small guy should fly under the radar?

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Breaking in in a system, whether or not the password was easy to guess, sounds like a crime to me.

It does sound like a crime to me too. But was it a password or other credential that was guessed, or was it just some sequential primary key? The latter is not an authorization system, and I do not believe it a crime to do that unless you have specific knowledge that it is likely to cause damage and/or the intent to cause that damage. As far as I am concerned, I am allowed to send any traffic I wish to public-facing…

Maybe as far as you are concerned, but not as far as the law is concerned ;-)
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