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I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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Post by krs_ »

trueismywork wrote: post #150
em-bee wrote: post #82

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no they don't. in some countries in europe (maybe in all of them?), installing airconditioning is frowned upon because it is considered a waste of energy. if you want government subsidies for replacing your heating system with a more energy efficient one you are not allowed to have airconditioning. and in the rest of the world only people/countries well of, that don't consider their energy usage, do it. airconditioni…

Europe not having some kind of air conditioning (even if heat pump based) is stupidity in my opinion. It lowers productivity

It should be noted that most office building will have some form of air conditioning, as well as many other indoor public spaces. It's just in people's homes it's uncommon.

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Post by bob1029 »

shrubble wrote: post #221
bob1029 wrote: post #101

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I've got a 5950x that I can reliably crater with a very specific .NET 8 console app when it would otherwise be stable 24/7/365, even under some pretty crazy workloads like Unity. I think a lot of it boils down to load profile and power delivery. My 2500VA double conversion UPS seems to have difficulty keeping up with the volatility in load when running that console app. I can tell because its fans ramp up and my ligh…

If you have a double conversion UPS that is complaining about less than 100W deviation, I would recommend you check the UPS for a component that is out of spec or on the way to failure.

The concern isn't the average rated TDP. It's the high Di/dt (change in current over time) transients of certain workload profiles cascading through the various layers of switch mode power supplies. Every layer of power delivery has some reactivity to it. I'd agree this would be no problem if all our power supplies were purely linear (and massively inefficient).

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Post by moffkalast »

c0l0 wrote: post #65

I realize this has not much to do with CPU choice per se, but I'm still gonna leave this recommendation here for people who like to build PCs to get stuff done with :) Since I've been able to afford it and the market has had them available, I've been buying desktop systems with proper ECC support. I've been chasing flimsy but very annoying stability problems (some, of course, due to overclocking during my younger yea…

Do you live at a very high altitude with a significant amount of solar radiation, or at an underfunded radiology lab or perhaps near a uranium deposit or a melted down nuclear reactor? Because the average machine should never see a memory bit flip error at all during its entire lifetime.

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Post by rkomorn »

moffkalast wrote: post #263
c0l0 wrote: post #65

I realize this has not much to do with CPU choice per se, but I'm still gonna leave this recommendation here for people who like to build PCs to get stuff done with :) Since I've been able to afford it and the market has had them available, I've been buying desktop systems with proper ECC support. I've been chasing flimsy but very annoying stability problems (some, of course, due to overclocking during my younger yea…

Do you live at a very high altitude with a significant amount of solar radiation, or at an underfunded radiology lab or perhaps near a uranium deposit or a melted down nuclear reactor? Because the average machine should never see a memory bit flip error at all during its entire lifetime.

Then how do you explain all the bugs in the software I write?!

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Post by IAmGraydon »

microtonal wrote: post #2

I feel like both Intel and AMD are not doing great in the desktop CPU stability department. I made a machine with a Ryzen 9900X a while back and it had the issue that it would freeze when idling. A few years before I had a 5950X that would regularly crash under load (luckily it was a prebuilt, so it was ultimately fixed). When you do not have a bunch of components ready to swap out it is also really hard to debug the…

9900x here and zero crashes since I built it 9 months ago. A lot of the stability comes down to choosing the right RAM with the right timing for Ryzen CPUs.

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Post by moffkalast »

rkomorn wrote: post #264
moffkalast wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you live at a very high altitude with a significant amount of solar radiation, or at an underfunded radiology lab or perhaps near a uranium deposit or a melted down nuclear reactor? Because the average machine should never see a memory bit flip error at all during its entire lifetime.

Then how do you explain all the bugs in the software I write?!

It truly is a cosmic mystery :)

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Post by coldtea »

lmm wrote: post #243
sippeangelo wrote: post #241

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Yeah, with that kind of markup you might as well just buy new ones IF they break, or just spend the extra budget on better quality parts. Just having to pick a very specific motherboard that probably is very much not optimal for your build will blow the costs up even more, and for what gain? I've been building my own gaming and productivity rigs for 20 years and I don't think memory has ever been a problem. Maybe sur…

> with that kind of markup you might as well just buy new ones IF they break Assuming you can tell, and assuming you don't end up silently corrupting your data before then.

You take backups and do checksums for the valuable data. For the rest, who cares...

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Post by guardian5x »

norman784 wrote: post #257
orthoxerox wrote: post #254

It's interesting how Intel has been surviving in smaller and smaller market niches these days: - cheap ULV chips like N100, N150, N300 - ultrabook ULV chips (I hope Lunar Lake is not a fluke) - workstation chips that aren't too powerful (mainstream Core CPUs) - inexpensive GPUs (a surprising niche, but excruciatingly small) AMD has been dominating them in all other submarkets. Without a mainstream halo product Intel…

AFAIK most (if not all) business laptops AKA Dell are intel based? Also I believe they are still big in the server market.

Dell has been very loyal to Intel all these years, but i guess that is under pressure as well. As more and more customers look for AMD CPUs nowadays. I guess the CPU doesn't matter much in standard office company laptops and price is more important.

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Post by devnullbrain »

c0l0 wrote: post #65

I realize this has not much to do with CPU choice per se, but I'm still gonna leave this recommendation here for people who like to build PCs to get stuff done with :) Since I've been able to afford it and the market has had them available, I've been buying desktop systems with proper ECC support. I've been chasing flimsy but very annoying stability problems (some, of course, due to overclocking during my younger yea…

I like the warning not to buy a motherboard from a manufacturer that has been defunct for 17 years
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