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Re: The staff ate it later

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Many people are against throwing away of food because of certain principles. But the irony is of course that in the West most people eat _far_ more calories than they really need, so they are doing basically the same thing.

I do t see the irony at all. You can consume lots of calories and also not waste food that seems like a completely reasonable thing to do to me.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Yes. Ish. I also think that whataboutism is cheap. I disagree that it'S 'more than enough' and that 'more than enough' is a good reason to waste resources.

It's not whataboutism if what you are worrying about is a drop in the bucket of overall waste.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re: The staff ate it later

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It reminds me of the proposal to shake hands at the end of Goldeneye: > Miyamoto, with a series of suggestions for the game. “One point was that there was too much close-up killing – he found it a bit too horrible. I don’t think I did anything with that input. The second point was, he felt the game was too tragic, with all the killing. He suggested that it might be nice if, at the end of the game, you got to shake ha…

One of my favorite childhood video games is 8 Eyes for the NES - after beating each boss, the player character sits down with them at a table, and a little skeleton butler walks over and serves them tea. The little scene plays over and over and over, you and the defeated bad guy, sitting at the table, sipping tea, while a skeleton wanders over and offers a periodic refill.

I always thought that was nice.

Re: The staff ate it later

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> what ghastly pizza establishment serves fake cheese Most of them, I imagine, in order to accommodate vegan customers. Some advertise it louder than others. > what are mystery veggies? There's quite a variety out there. I've seen broccoli, sundried tomato, artichoke, spinach....

Vegan cheese is an abomination. Even if one is vegan they shouldn't eat that crap, just eat something else instead. You can make much better vegan food if you focus on trying to make vegetables good versus torturing them into a facsimile of animal products.

The huge majority of cheese consumed in the US isn't any better than vegan cheese. And yes, the US does have good cheese! It's just a tiny sliver of all cheese consumed.

Re: The staff ate it later

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I wonder how this plays out. As noted sometimes the staff can't eat it, heck sometimes you might not want to eat it. That has to happen pretty often. I worked at a company with a particularly sensitive HR team who would host pizza parties now and then, but they'd only order "weird" pizzas and I guess they liked it, but they were quite miffed when people stopped coming / didn't want to eat some pizza with some kind of…

Many years ago, I was on a training course, all typical engineers, and the guy who had organized it, a foodie, had ordered the day's spread from a very expensive and fancy catering place. Skeptical engineers eyeing the spread, which included such things as "cold orange soup"; one of them said "I should have brought my rabbit". The message was clearly received. Next day and subsequent ones, an equally high quality spr…

Man this might be unfair of me but I find that “rabbit food” attitude intolerably childish. Why the fuck should ‘cold’ or ‘orange’ or ‘soup’ be disqualifying attributes as far as a succulent meal goes - ignorance of toasted carrot ginger soup is the only thing I can think of, and I have so very little patience for ignorance of food.

Stop being a baby and put it in your mouth already for chrissake. You might learn something.

Re: The staff ate it later

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So, it is marketing and perception problem and not because insects are objectively terrible as food for people?

In my understanding it is mostly a cultural thing that makes people reject insects. I am unaware of any objective measure by which are insects are terrible foods.

And how many of your meals have included insect food?

Re: The staff ate it later

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post #101

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I’ve also lived in NA Europe and Japan and disagree with this sentiment. “Don’t waste stuff” is taught by plenty of parents, people talk about using every bit of the buffalo in America. Everyone in my generation has the grandparent who threw nothing away. There’s maybe more modern examples of cultural thrift in Japan due to the postwar experience compared to the US… but even then. I feel like I’m talking to aliens wh…

Maybe I'm wrong, but from my personal experiences in NA and Europe, even though wasting is "frowned upon", there's no feeling of "guilt" with the action of "waste". Honestly, I'm not sure how to explain it.

Did you have grandparents who lived through the Great Depression? Were your great grandparents adults during that? Mine were. My parents also both grew up fairly poor, partly in single-mother homes with multiple siblings. The guilt about wasting things, especially food, can be very real in North America.

Maybe your generation or your family's economic class is just very different from mine.

Re: The staff ate it later

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post #85

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The idea of not wasting food as a sort of baseline concept is a thing plenty of parents in the US teach their children.

Many Boomers may have heard something along the lines of "Many kids in Japan are starving and would love to have that food" even, bringing this somewhat full-circle.

Many boomers had parents and grandparents who lived through the Great Depression and war rationing.

Re: The staff ate it later

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It is a different story but which is without any doubt derived from the Enkidu story and modified to suit different conceptions about the role of women in society and about what is valuable for mankind. While in the Enkidu story the role of the woman was positive, because she has taught Enkidu about the advantages of civilized life, making him leave the wilderness where he lived since being created by God, in the Gen…

Like Pandora's box, it's a just so story about why women are the source of all mens' problems and why patriarchy is just and necessary. And why women have pain in childbirth. And why people are afraid of snakes. And why we die. But mostly about why women suck (from the point of view of ancient Hebrew culture.) And that attitude transfers to Christianity in 1 Timothy when Paul says women should not be allowed to teach…

Yes but in Genesis 3, 20 (at the end of this very story), it is said: "Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living." That's not dismissive at all. It can be argued that Paul brought his own prejudices to a text which was much less prejudiced than he was.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Are they not normal inside the US?

They're normal vegetables, but not normal pizza toppings. Just look at the menu offerings of any big US chain pizza place, deviating from that without warning is going to cause disappointment.

> any big US chain pizza place

I guess that counts as "normal," but that's fast food, where picky children's tastes rule. Predictability and therefore high-volume turnover of ingredients is paramount.

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